Quality of ride along part 91 Time (C-402)

[Fox-Tree]

I've been riding along with our freight departments' 402's and logging the 91 legs that I fly. Any input on this? I'm looking from a future interview standpoint. thanks for the input.

Are you a required crew member on the aircraft?

 

[minitour]

Are you a required crew member on the aircraft?

If it's Pt 91 and he's sole manipulator and AMEL rated on either his Private, Commercial or ATP Certificate he's good to go.

From what I've been told, I agree with everyone else...just know the aircraft systems/limitations and you should be in good shape. It's part 91...no biggie.

-mini

 

[troy]

Are you a required crew member on the aircraft?

No, don't need to be to log 91 legs.

I've only been logging the empty legs back, too bad they are only about 1.0-1.2hr ea. Oh well, too much ride-along time is bad too.

 

[momalley81]

C402 boost pumps

Be careful with boost pumps on the 402. Never used them. Had problems with the B and C models of flooding the engines. Only turn the pumps on if you hear the engine running rough (my opnion)

By the way Have you ever had that problem.

This is with many (at least 10-12) 402s I have had problems with fuel pumps on t/o and landing

Enjoy the 402! Great airplane but of course. summer time with people on board and you lose an engine....GOOD LUCK

Don't know how long ago you were flying 402's, but there was a service bulliten on the fuel pumps to replace them with a guarded 3 position switch to deal with the engine flooding issue. Low-Off-High; Low for ground ops, takeoff, landing, and anytime vapor lock is suspected, high for engine driven fuel pump failure. It requires you to lift the switch then push forward to avoid accidently flooding the motor when you turn them off.

BTW- You DO have a high-altitude signoff, right? While not a pressurised aircraft, 14 CFR 61.31(g) defines a pressurized aircraft as "an aircraft that has a service ceiling or maximum operating altitude, whichever is lower, above 25,000 feet MSL" Of course, that's to act as PIC; you're just logging it...

edited to correct a typo

 

[troy]

Don't know how when you were flying 402's, but there was a service bulliten on the fuel pumps to replace them with a guarded 3 position switch to deal with the engine flooding issue. Low-Off-High; Low for ground ops, takeoff, landing, and anytime vapor lock is suspected, high for engine driven fuel pump failure. It requires you to lift the switch then push forward to avoid accidently flooding the motor when you turn them off.

BTW- You DO have a high-altitude signoff, right? While not a pressurised aircraft, 14 CFR 61.31(g) defines a pressurized aircraft as "an aircraft that has a service ceiling or maximum operating altitude, whichever is lower, above 25,000 feet MSL" Of course, that's to act as PIC; you're just logging it...

I was refering to the low operation of the pumps, and have been cautioned about the engines dying with high boost.

Don't have the signoff, but you said it first. I'm not acting, just logging.

 

[Fox-Tree]

No, don't need to be to log 91 legs.

I've only been logging the empty legs back, too bad they are only about 1.0-1.2hr ea. Oh well, too much ride-along time is bad too.

Sorry - I'm not real familiar with this concept.

You're riding along in the right seat of a 402 while another pilot flies and you're logging the time?

 

[troy]

Sorry - I'm not real familiar with this concept.

You're riding along in the right seat of a 402 while another pilot flies and you're logging the time?

No, flying from the right, usually. Insurance deal.

 

[Fox-Tree]

No, flying from the right, usually. Insurance deal.

What kind of time are you logging this as?

If you're logging PIC as sole manipulator, does that mean the other pilot is not? (pretty nice of him if that's the case).

 

[av8rbama]

What kind of time are you logging this as?

If you're logging PIC as sole manipulator, does that mean the other pilot is not? (pretty nice of him if that's the case).

I do the same thing around here... 402, 414, and 421. Of course, it's just ride-alongs on otherwise single-pilot trips. I fly & log empty legs (from right-seat due to insurance), he flies and logs w/ pax. He's got enough hours to choke a horse and is happy to have some company that will talk shop with him.

 

[troy]

What kind of time are you logging this as?

If you're logging PIC as sole manipulator, does that mean the other pilot is not? (pretty nice of him if that's the case).

correct!