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Publishers

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Years back, a number of companies started up service as Public Charter hiring various carriers like ExpressOne, Private Jet, and others to do the acutual flying. These were the forrunners of discount carriers. Skybus and others tried to be carriers generating income from the first day while they sought their own certificate.

My question is has there ever been any Public Charter internationally done, scheduled service of charter from and to the US and what FAA regulations deal with international public charter.
 
A Public Charter is any flight that is being sold to the general public that is not scheduled. These have to be filed with the DOT, half the money is put in escrow before the flight and the rest is paid prior to departure. The broker can charge whatever they want. A Public Charter must go through the terminal per TSA as it becomes the same as a regular domestic or international carrier flight. To answer your question, yes 90% of the public charters we do go to international destinations. You can check out our website Miamiair.com they will give you the specifics.
 
I knew it happened.

I have done some of those.

Are the apple vacation jets public charter jets, or are they owned by apple??
 
Thanks,,,,, Can they be done under 135 on a 19 passenger aircraft and I assume what you are saying is that it has to be a 139 airport with TSA.
 
19 pax aircraft can be either 135/121 yes they can be done DOT is the requlatiing authority, TSA has to be complied with as a seperate organization, this includes APIS(Advanced Passenger Information Service) outbound and inbound. The complete situation has gotten very complicated since 911.
 
I currently work for an airline that does Public Charter. We operate under 121 Supplemental Rules. Apple Vacations, Vacation Express, My Tours Travel Group, and the like contract with Supplemental airlines to operate flights to various destinations on a set schedule. They are considered Public Charters because the do not sell tickets directly to the public. They sell "vacation packages, airfare included". As far as I know, all Public Charters are done by 121 Supplemental operators.
 
Anytime you are "holding out" to the general public you are a public charter. A singe endity charter would be on group like a rock band, sport team, etc. The person selling tickets on the airplane may sell them anyway that they wish.
 
Thanks again...... I understood most of the 121 aspect, just unclear on international 135 into a non 139 airport that has customs or does TSA require these be into 139 airport where they are. /.
 
10 to 19 pax yes, 9 or less no. Private charter(single endity) no. I am about 80% sure, check it out with TSA.
 
TurboS7 said:
10 to 19 pax yes, 9 or less no. Private charter(single endity) no. I am about 80% sure, check it out with TSA.

Hmmm...I was under the imrpression that is was the wieght of the aircraft.
 

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