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PSA parking planes???

Relic01

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Have a few friends at PSA. One was telling me that the company is looking for voluntary furloughs (possibly as many as a hundred) and talking about parking 10 aircraft while cancelling future orders. Can anyone confirm this or does he have no reason to be concern? I feel for the guy because this would be a second furlough from PSA in 2 years...yikes.
 

sluminginpit

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Relax! There has been no number given. If the company was looking for 100 people, they would just furlough! No official anouncement as to parking planes. Rumor has it there is an option to send 10 50 seaters back, who knows, who cares. Tell your friend to stay calm and enjoy his time right now, nothing is certain at PSA and things change fast. I flew with an FO last week that had been junior manned for the 2nd time in one week, hardly a company needing to trim the fat!
 

Clipper_Aurora

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Well that is the worst case senerio isn't it? I'll keep riding the wave, I have heard only need 10 CA's and 7 FO's to leave, so with that I wouldn't think about parking planes
 

UZAInstructor

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Can you even get the plastic ones anymore? Not that they were worth anything, they didn't fly for crap. I've still got my original metal "hey Matt, see if you can dodge these" Jarts from my childhood. Might have to break em out again soon........that was a fun game.
 

RUhiring?

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The company isn't looking for voluntary furloughs....they are offering a one month voluntary leave. The lines in CLT have been very light......75 hours max for 18 days of work. It looks like they are trying to get their financial numbers looking good just before the end of the year. Maybe it will allow them to build decent lines for December. If payroll goes down, and productivity goes up, even for the short term, I think they figure it will look good to the folks in Tempe. They are cutting numbers in the training department and in the office staff.
Everyone should relax, this kind of monkeying around usually ends up biting them in the ass. Of course, they don't hurt from it, we do.
 

328dude

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I don't know where you guys get this stuff. No returning of airplanes, (you guys are linking the options of ending leases on 10 airplanes, with their return-not true). No furloughs for December...yada yada yada......

However, this voluntary leave will probably be extended into January for the continuation of trimming the fat.
 

FishNwithDene

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I hear AWAC is buying PSA Airlines; a Wholly Owned Subitary of MESA. JO startied buying PSA about 3 years ago. Oh, and TYS has been closing since 1999.
 

BeCareful!

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Hey, 328dude,

what about "no-fly" lines. Aren't they required to offer those to us in times of temporary overstaffing?


As far as junior manning and six day reserve trips, that doesn't mean much around here; even if we had 15 crews per airplane, our schedulers could create six day trips for everyone on the property!
 

328dude

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That was a part of the original IOE side letter. Since we stopped delivery's, the program was ended by direction of the company in June. It would be implemented again if we get more planes.
 

PSAChiefPilots

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FishNwithDene said:
I hear AWAC is buying PSA Airlines; a Wholly Owned Subitary of MESA. JO startied buying PSA about 3 years ago. Oh, and TYS has been closing since 1999.

FWD,
Back in the boat and get that darn bait outta your mouth!
PSACPSP
 

jetfo

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It's a dream. Humane mamagement and a decent contract. What a concept!
 

mamba20

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AWAC buying us would't be bad at all, in fact I wished it had happened. If it was going to happen though it would have happened before we came out of BK. Nice thought though, for a few weeks a lot of us were dreaming of being treated like a person rather then a robot.
 

dollacrackho

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is it true that when psa has a 50/50 ratio of 200's to 700's then every j4j becomes slotted? and if so when 10 200's go back what will the ration be?
and if magnum is such a damn good detective how come he hasn't figured out that higgins is masters.
 

J32driver

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jetfo said:
It's a dream. Humane mamagement and a decent contract. What a concept!

Yep... Human management is correct. Just don't think that translates into humane crew planning! This place is leaping over stacks of 100 dollar bills so they can pick up the dime on the other side! We are all keeping our fingers crossed that life will be back to normal come the end of June.

Best of luck to the folks at PSA, and thanks for the ride home.
 
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