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328dude

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Here it comes!!!!



Details of US Airways' Philadelphia strategy due today
Thursday, February 19, 2004
By Dan Fitzpatrick, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
US Airways is expected to tell its pilots today how the Arlington, Va.-based carrier intends to defend its Philadelphia hub against low-fare, low-cost rival Southwest Airlines.
The Philadelphia strategy already has these broad components:
Simplify and lower fares.
Improve advertising.
Use US Airways resources, such as its frequent flier program, to entice travelers into Philadelphia instead of nearby Newark, N.J., or Baltimore, where Southwest is stronger.
Showcase what US Airways provides above and beyond Southwest, and convince travelers that they can fly at a low, Southwest-esque price but with more services. "We have products Southwest can and does not offer," said US Airways spokesman David Castelveter.
Use physical changes at the airport to turn around planes more quickly on certain routes, making it easier for US Airways to compete against Southwest's lauded efficiency practices.
The Philadelphia strategy, designed as Southwest plans to start service from that city in May, goes hand-in-hand with the company's larger restructuring plan, which pilots also expected to hear more about at today's meeting in Charlotte, N.C.
The plan, which the company referred to last week in meeting with flight attendants as a "framework for the future," includes eight broad initiatives: increasing productivity to low-cost carrier standards; combining the best of US Airways' existing business model with low-cost carrier strengths; building on the airline's strengths in large Northeast cities; providing consumers amenities they are willing to pay for; using simple restriction-free pricing; marketing directly to consumers; reversing East Coast market share losses; and building a franchise that can grow westward.
The pilots, in their meeting today and tomorrow, also will consider a proposal that would give US Airways flexibility to transfer its smaller, more nimble regional jets already on order to other US Airways Express commuter carriers. The company has told the pilots that it needs this flexibility in case something goes wrong with its regional jet financing from GE Capital Corp., which could pull its commitment if US Airways' junk credit rating worsens.
If that happens, US Airways would like to be able to perhaps sell US Airways-owned commuter affiliate PSA Airlines or US Airways commuter division MidAtlantic Airways to another US Airways Express carrier not owned by the company. That way, the planes would still operate under the US Airways banner, but the company could relieve itself from the costs of operating and staffing them.
In fact, US Airways has already contacted Phoenix-based Mesa Air about buying some of the 170 smaller jets on order from Embraer and Bombardier, and has raised the idea in a meeting with GE.
MidAtlantic is still scheduled to begin service in April, serving six cities from Pittsburgh (Albany, N.Y.,
 
328dude said:




Details of US Airways' Philadelphia strategy due today
Thursday, February 19, 2004
By Dan Fitzpatrick, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

being from this city and having read many of Fitzpatrick's articles, i'm inclinded to belive that this might not be entirely accurate (just my opinion of Fitzpatrick)...My cousin is an RJ capt. for PSA and in a recent discussion (about a month ago) he didn't mention anything to me about Mesa (not saying that it's couldn't happen). i just find it odd that they would aquire all of those A/C and then just sell out all of the sudden. but hey, it's a dollars game...gotta go where the money is...
 
makes sense to me.

Us airways needs to free up money.

They might not be able to continue to finance new planes without that money. (Credit rating dropping)

If they can sell some assets and still have those assets flying under their colors that would be a win win for US airways
 
In my opinion, an IPO is a more likely scenerio than a sale to another carrier. IPOing PSA at the right time would be a smarter move rather than just giving up a profitable portion of the Group just to attain a very short term gain and end up with a long term loss.

The key word is "assest", PSA is a profitable airline. The Group reatains those profits, and selling it to mesa would be the Group saying, "we don't need those profits". Thats why, to me, a sale just does'nt seem likely.

Once PSA is built up enough, an IPO of it could be very very profitable for the Group. Much more so than a flat out sale.

Just my humble opinion, mixed in with what I would like to see happen.
 
BTDII said:
In my opinion, an IPO is a more likely scenerio than a sale to another carrier. IPOing PSA at the right time would be a smarter move rather than just giving up a profitable portion of the Group just to attain a very short term gain and end up with a long term loss.

The key word is "assest", PSA is a profitable airline. The Group reatains those profits, and selling it to mesa would be the Group saying, "we don't need those profits". Thats why, to me, a sale just does'nt seem likely.

Once PSA is built up enough, an IPO of it could be very very profitable for the Group. Much more so than a flat out sale.

Just my humble opinion, mixed in with what I would like to see happen.

No offence intended at all, but I can't see any investment company or individuals out there that would buy into PSA. I know you guys are a good bunch, but buying into a company who's lone business is working for a bankrupt carrier isn't going to fly.

I wish you guys the best!
 
"No offence intended at all, but I can't see any investment company or individuals out there that would buy into PSA. I know you guys are a good bunch, but buying into a company who's lone business is working for a bankrupt carrier isn't going to fly."[/COLOR]


US Airways, although not doing well, is not bankrupt.
 
captjim said:
No offence intended at all, but I can't see any investment company or individuals out there that would buy into PSA. I know you guys are a good bunch, but buying into a company who's lone business is working for a bankrupt carrier isn't going to fly.

I wish you guys the best!

No offence taken. The following is from the fourth quarter results. You'll notice the vast improvement Airways has had, eventhough Mgt. continues to play the "doom and gloom" card to keep getting more from the employees. With the very possible reallity of Airways returning to profitability in the next few years, an IPO of a profitable subsiderary might be exactely what investers would go for. Once again just my opinion and hopes, cause anything beats having to work for mesa or any other contract carrier.

"ARLINGTON, Va., Feb. 6 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- US Airways Group, Inc. (Nasdaq: UAIR - News) today reported a fourth quarter 2003 net loss of $98 million compared to a net loss of $794 million for the fourth quarter 2002, which is a $696 million improvement.

The fourth quarter pretax loss of $99 million compares to a pretax loss of $848 million for the fourth quarter of 2002, an improvement of $749 million. Results for both periods include unusual items, described in Note 5 below, including the sale of the company's equity investment in Hotwire in the fourth quarter of 2003, and a number of items related to the company's bankruptcy in the fourth quarter of 2002. Excluding these unusual items, pretax loss for the fourth quarter of 2003 of $129 million improved by $223 million from a $352 million pretax loss in the fourth quarter of 2002."
 
IPO would only happen if there was good visibility into future cash flows. In USAirways case, there is NO GOOD VISIBILITY. Therefore an IPO wouldn't happen. If PSA were diversified (a la MESA) and spread out among many carriers, then an IPO could be a possibility because cash flows would be more certain. I wouldn't rule out an investment by a company like WEXFORD though.

In the end, USAirways would win if they could dump the expensive airplanes (financing costs) on someone else and yet still have access to them - that is why MESA is a likely candidate. Not good news for the pilots involved...
 
psa will be purchased by mesa. its an easy fit. i dont really see this as to bad for psa-ers b/c they may actually get some sort of pay raise out of it, mesa rates are actually a little higher in most cases.
 
There is no way PSA would be sold. They made airways money last year....no PSA = No extra income for Airways. Siegel is not that stupid..... as for 5pm on monday....70 seat jets at PSA is my guess....airways still has them ordered and the original press thing last year was 85 CRJs 60- 50 seaters and 25 75 seaters now 70 seaters to PSA.....if you think otherwise your an idiot.......
 
NoName said:
psa will be purchased by mesa. its an easy fit. i dont really see this as to bad for psa-ers b/c they may actually get some sort of pay raise out of it, mesa rates are actually a little higher in most cases.

Mesas rates are only higher for the first 2 years. then they suck.
 
"They made airways money last year....no PSA = No extra income for Airways"



Who cares if PSA made money (on the paper ) or not. You are still owned by U. ( as you WO like to remind us about all the time.....) The question is: Will U be able to finance future SJ deliveries in the ( current ) state the company is in?
 
PSA and MESA ?????

PSA and MESA wouldn't work due to pilot structure. If I remember correctly, MESA still votes on their contract.

WACO
 
NoName said:
psa will be purchased by mesa. its an easy fit. i dont really see this as to bad for psa-ers b/c they may actually get some sort of pay raise out of it, mesa rates are actually a little higher in most cases.


Not really, look:

Here are the 50 seat rates; just year 1 Captain, and years 2-3 FO are lower:


PSA MESA
1. 49.44 51.17
2. 53.56 52.76
3. 54.53 54.35
4. 58.55 55.99
5. 60.32 57.64
6. 62.09 59.32
7. 63.61 60.94
8. 65.45 62.90
9. 67.58 64.83

FO
1. 20.60 20.47
2. 25.75 27.42
3. 27.81 30.59
4. 32.31 31.90
5. 33.31 32.85
6. 34.04 33.62
7. 34.59 34.07
 
There is no way PSA would be sold. They made airways money last year....no PSA = No extra income for Airways. Siegel is not that stupid..... as for 5pm on monday....70 seat jets at PSA is my guess....airways still has them ordered and the original press thing last year was 85 CRJs 60- 50 seaters and 25 75 seaters now 70 seaters to PSA.....if you think otherwise your an idiot.......
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Dude, your talking about US Airways!!! They will step over a dollar to pick up a quarter... Remember don't do any reasoning when talking about US Airways!!!

So who's the real idiot????????
 

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