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I have been in the pool since September. There was 1 more interview group in October that has people in the pool as well.
The two unofficial responses I have gotten were possibly a class Late May to mid June. I do not know how many people are left hanging in the pool though. There may be enough for two or more classes and so there will probably not be any hiring in the near future.
However with everything in aviation, all is subject to change at all times and they could start hiring tomorrow and need 100 new pilots by year end.
Na that is just a dream!
I have been in the pool since September. There was 1 more interview group in October that has people in the pool as well.
The two unofficial responses I have gotten were possibly a class Late May to mid June. I do not know how many people are left hanging in the pool though. There may be enough for two or more classes and so there will probably not be any hiring in the near future.
However with everything in aviation, all is subject to change at all times and they could start hiring tomorrow and need 100 new pilots by year end.
Na that is just a dream!
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I suggest you read the first reply... don't go to PSA. The schedules are awful (the max days off in April was 13!!), the hotels are crappy and sometimes bordering on dangerous (IE don't go outside at night). The per diem is the lowest I've seen anywhere. The scheduling and bidding is slowly moving to an online system but it is still way behind the times - the ability to improve your schedule through open time is almost non-existent now. They utilise most of the open time by making buildup lines and what's left, you can't access in real time. This means that the stuff that shows open often is not, and by the time you get your request denied (a day or two later) it is too late to make another request. Also there is no way to see the pairings that are in open time. All you can see is the start and end times.
The pay is very low for 70 seat jets for FOs (you can make more on a 50 seater at other regionals) and upgrade... fuggedaboutit. There may be some Furloughed mainline pilots get recalled to US in the near future, but there isn't that many of them here to start with, and right now we are hearing that before any more upgrades occur, there are backfill Captain slots from the Jets-for_jobs program.
You will be on reserve for a very long time. Now reserve is not the same everywhere, at PSA reserve means 10 days off a month. 5 on with a 5am day one reserve period so you lose the day before if you commute. Don't try sneaking in on the early flight on day one because they'll be watching you trying to non-rev in Sabre, and will call your cellphone with an assignment, and then give you a no-show for not being in base already.
And if you don't live in Dayton you will probably be commuting to Dayton. Expect not to get released until after the last flight out has left Dayton on day 5 of reserve, and then you will spend the next two days off commuting home and then back to work.
Did I mention there is no commuter policy at PSA?
The pay is very low for 70 seat jets for FOs (you can make more on a 50 seater at other regionals) and upgrade... fuggedaboutit. There may be some Furloughed mainline pilots get recalled to US in the near future, but there isn't that many of them here to start with, and right now we are hearing that before any more upgrades occur, there are backfill Captain slots from the Jets-for_jobs program.
You will be on reserve for a very long time. Now reserve is not the same everywhere, at PSA reserve means 10 days off a month. 5 on with a 5am day one reserve period so you lose the day before if you commute. Don't try sneaking in on the early flight on day one because they'll be watching you trying to non-rev in Sabre, and will call your cellphone with an assignment, and then give you a no-show for not being in base already.
And if you don't live in Dayton you will probably be commuting to Dayton. Expect not to get released until after the last flight out has left Dayton on day 5 of reserve, and then you will spend the next two days off commuting home and then back to work.
Did I mention there is no commuter policy at PSA?
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wow psa sounds like a real sh!t place to work i'm gonna avoid that place.
i rather lance warts on a gay midgets pecker then work there. hahahahahaha
suckers workin at psa for the man, losers.
oh wait minute i work at psa.
dont listen to that weasil psa rules.
if i had to choose between rockstar and psa fo i'd pick psa fo in a heartbeat.
i rather lance warts on a gay midgets pecker then work there. hahahahahaha
suckers workin at psa for the man, losers.
oh wait minute i work at psa.
dont listen to that weasil psa rules.
if i had to choose between rockstar and psa fo i'd pick psa fo in a heartbeat.
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AdamKooper
Just compare for yourself
http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/regional/psa-2005030579.htm
http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/major-national-lcc/mesa-2005030574.htm
Not very different.
http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/regional/psa-2005030579.htm
http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/major-national-lcc/mesa-2005030574.htm
Not very different.
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I've been here 7 months don't have anything bad to say. You will get used allot on reserve...especially in KCLT. (this is a good thing in terms of per-deim and becoming proficient in the aircraft) Be civil...treat the schedulers with respect and they will usually respond in kind. The Chief pilots here do a good job backing the pilots and are much more helpful than other 121 outfits.
Commuting will make you grouchy...If you can...live in base...life will be allot better.
Anybody hear any rumors about a June newhire class?
Commuting will make you grouchy...If you can...live in base...life will be allot better.
Anybody hear any rumors about a June newhire class?
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DOGTIRED said:
Currenly not hiring. Was supposed to be a class of J4J's this month, but that was cancelled. My "in" from the training department is out flying the line this month but they told him to get ready to teach again next month. Now that can all change with just a moments notice.
I think all of the newhires came to CLT from the last classes. It might take a while to get to TYS and there was a memo they won't be backfilling DAY. Growth? Now that's funny. None in the near future. Schedules? I would say plan on sitting reserve for at least a year, I'm at 9 months and I still can't hold a build up. Once you get a line they're not that great. Reference what weasil said. Pay is toward the bottom tier of the regionals.
There are a lot of really pissed off people here, but also some really great people to fly with. PSA could turn into an American Eagle deal with the upgrade situation. I won't get into the details on a public site, but if you're looking to get some PIC in the next 5 years or less you might want to look elsewhere.
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AdamKooper said:
Xjet will be losing 69 jets, im sure the upgrade err furlough will rock!
ASA is linked to the ATL train wreck, upgrade uhh never, furlough when delta goes TU.
Chq ok maybe but its not realy worth it.
I would put PSA ontop of Xjet and ASA, bases are CLT and DAY. pay is not the best but no way close to mesa. Ihear rumors of a flow throgh getting worked out in a few years, also possible buy out by Air Wisconsin? If you wana live in the Carolinas or Ohio its not a bad gig. US Air seems to be on its feet now which is also worth alot. I belive they are 1000tt 250 multi. If you have the ATP mins i would try Republic first as much as i hate to send anyone to the dark side. Air Wisconsin is also a strong bet.
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jws717 said:
XJT announced yesterday they are keeping ALL 69 airplanes. And the Chief Pilot told the class yesterday that all those airplanes will be flown/maintained etc by current XJT employees.
ASA is in almost the same position PSA was when we went into bankruptcy in 04. Except that ASA is not owned by DL - they are owned by Skywest, and this is definitely a plus for them. You can't base your decision on whether or not the company will still be there ina year because there is no way to know.
In a year from now America West management may very well decide that they don't want to operate a wholly-owned regional and then sell the aircraft leases, and simulator in an assett transfer - like what they did to Mid-Atlantic - which now no longer exists.
And as for upgrades at PSA. There are Fo's here who had 3 years on the job when I got hired year in 2 1/2 yrs ago. There are many more than 7 future J4J backfill positions. There have only been 2 or 3 upgrade classes the whole time I've been here. And these classes have not been big. We currently have captains on voluntary leave because they have more than they want. Also I heard the staffing model is being changed to 8 pilots per airplane instead of 10. This means they need to lose captains in the near future, not gain more. Upgrade will be a long, long time for anybody hired now, I suspect.
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7 More J4J's
AH Yes 7 more J4J's, bringing their bad attitudes, to the already and soon to be worse attitudes from the rest of the PSA work force, due to the mighty 7 more. All I can say those guys are going to be eatin alive,
if your one of the 7 ~enjoy your stay
I just applied to MESA or GO Jets even looks better!
AH Yes 7 more J4J's, bringing their bad attitudes, to the already and soon to be worse attitudes from the rest of the PSA work force, due to the mighty 7 more. All I can say those guys are going to be eatin alive,
if your one of the 7 ~enjoy your stay
I just applied to MESA or GO Jets even looks better!
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Clipper_Aurora said:
just mind boggling. . what the f!ck are psa guys getting out of this deal besides the vast knowledge of these wunderkinds who wow us with their knowledge of jet aircraft. there is still to date no f!cking flowthrough agreement hashed out, none of these guys are going to take first recall yet here we go bringing on more of these guys. its gonna get real ugly at this place. its time to get some reciprocation here or something else needs to happen.
Dolla, how can you ask that?! We get to fly JETS!!! DUH!! I cant believe you didnt know that. The J4J's got the world with this whole deal, dont get me started.
We here at PSA have seen a few positive things here in the past couple of weeks. I know, I know I can hardly believe it myself but we now are on CASS and have a commuter policy and I heard that we might be able to improve our crewmeals and actually order what we want here in CLT. All of these seem huge since things have sucked big time here the past 6 months. Lets hope this new "upswing" stays around for a week. I kinda like not having something to bitch about.
We here at PSA have seen a few positive things here in the past couple of weeks. I know, I know I can hardly believe it myself but we now are on CASS and have a commuter policy and I heard that we might be able to improve our crewmeals and actually order what we want here in CLT. All of these seem huge since things have sucked big time here the past 6 months. Lets hope this new "upswing" stays around for a week. I kinda like not having something to bitch about.
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dollacrackho said:
Dolla, please read the agreement in regards to backfill vacancy's before spounting off over something you obvioulsy don't understand. I don't like anymore than the next guy, but we still have to honor the agreement that was in place. The AAA and PDT guys are in current talks over flowthrough, but they are certainly in a diffrent situtation than PSA and the tentative agreement that they are working on is nothing that this group would ever agree to nor would the MEC. We will deal with flowthrough at a later date. We have other more important issues regarding this J4J program before us that we are still discussing with the AAA MEC.
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i'm not trying to be a pain the in the a$$ but of those 1500 probably about 300 to 400 will actually come back. i dont think that is a huge exaggeration and i think its starting to be apparent how successful airways is going to be in the future and to potentially be a part of it all would be nice sooner better than later. just my two worthless pennies
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