PSA CRJs

[lindsaya99]

Does anyone if the Memory Items and Flows for the 50 seat jet at PSA are the same as those at Comair? Does PSA have planes with the 3A1 engines or are they 3B1 engines? I seem to remember some differences in the limitations between the two. I'm in a new hire class on Nov. 6 and just want to study up a bit since I already have the material. Either that, or drink constantly for the next week and a half. Thanks.

 

[Gofish]

3B1 (200) - 8C1 (700)

Our flows are simpler. I got books.

Got crashpad?

 

[lindsaya99]

3B1 (200) - 8C1 (700)

Our flows are simpler. I got books.

Got crashpad?

No crashpad yet. Most likely will move to CLT and bid for there. I've heard new hires go to DAY so I'm sure I'll need a crashpad for a while at least.

 

[svcta]

The travelodge by the airport(in DAY) will guarantee you a bed in a room (sometimes with a rommie) for $150/mo. And they'll pick you up and drop you off @ the airport(a mile away). It's a complete dive, there's hardly anything around it, and to top it off the chick behind the desk weighs about 300 pounds. But it sure is easy.

 

[lindsaya99]

The travelodge by the airport(in DAY) will guarantee you a bed in a room (sometimes with a rommie) for $150/mo. And they'll pick you up and drop you off @ the airport(a mile away). It's a complete dive, there's hardly anything around it, and to top it off the chick behind the desk weighs about 300 pounds. But it sure is easy.

How much of a dive? Do I need to become a FFDO before I go there?

 

[ex j-41]

She makes me sick just looking at her. Just disgusting
And....

Didn't they condem the travellogdge?


F/O's are leaving in record numbers because of the 10 new street captains that were hired and the 6 year upgrade class.
And why would you leave Comair to come here?

 

[paddlehigh]

Just saw today that knoxville has eight vacancies so I would bet on that and not clt or day

 

[n7715x]

Why in the world would someone go to PSA right now? Over 5 year upgrade, and J4Js taking most all the upgrade slots anyway?? WTF!?

 

[Stuka Luva]

And why would you leave Comair to come here?

Are you kidding? Do you have any idea of what's going on at Comair and what they are up against?!

PSA shore ain't no path paved with gold, but c'mon!

 

[svcta]

Travelodge wasn't ever dangerous, just gross. And they should've condemned it. Of course it's been a couple of years since I was there. I used to be an FO at PSA. For what it's worth...I didn't stay.

 

[ex j-41]

Are you kidding? Do you have any idea of what's going on at Comair and what they are up against?!

Yes they may have it tough but just pay alone and you kill us.

Comair PSA
1 $24 $21
2 $43 $28
3 $44 $30
4 $46 $33
5 $47 $34
6 $48 $35
7 $50 $36
8 $52 $36


Don't forget the year and a half plus of reserve. Word on the street is
that Management is trying to get F/O's to quit. They are doing a
great job.

 

[Sawmill]

Don't forget the year and a half plus of reserve. Word on the street is
that Management is trying to get F/O's to quit. They are doing a
great job.

It didnt take much trying on managements part to get me to quit...and I was only there for 6 months.

 

[Gofish]

Yes they may have it tough but just pay alone and you kill us.

Comair PSA
1 $24 $21
2 $43 $28
3 $44 $30
4 $46 $33
5 $47 $34
6 $48 $35
7 $50 $36
8 $52 $36


Don't forget the year and a half plus of reserve. Word on the street is
that Management is trying to get F/O's to quit. They are doing a
great job.

Ain't quittin...ridin this B1tch into the ground...just like the PSA cowboys did.

 

[Stuka Luva]

Yes they may have it tough but just pay alone and you kill us.

Comair PSA
1 $24 $21
2 $43 $28
3 $44 $30
4 $46 $33
5 $47 $34
6 $48 $35
7 $50 $36
8 $52 $36


Don't forget the year and a half plus of reserve. Word on the street is
that Management is trying to get F/O's to quit. They are doing a
great job.

Management is trying to get FOs to quit?! Holy crap STOP THE PRESSES!!!
That's not news

OK, first, you post -700 pay scales for Comair as opposed to the blended rate for PSA. -200 rates are slightly less. Your point is that Comair pilots are currently paid more than PSA pilots and that is true, but the numbers you use are not the whole story.

Man, you really have no idea of what is going on over there, you are too busy crying "Woe is me!"

AVERAGE time on reserve at Comair is 2 years depending on base.

Just wait, when management files an 1113 and throws out the pilot contract then what happens. Oh here's an idea...they IMPOSE the cutbacks they tried to pass earlier! -700 FOs take the higherst percentage: a 22% paycut. The other groups get their cuts as well. I think it's something like a 20 grand paycut for -700 CAs. -700 FOs topping out at $36 bucks and CAs at upper 80s to lower 90s?!

PLUS...fighting tooth-and-nail with other Delta Connection carriers for the HONOR of flying Delta routes!

With Daddy Delta still in bankruptcy (and just delayed their proposed exit) anything is possible!

I feel for these guys/gals, and hope the best for everyone of them. I got a lot of friends over there. I don't envy them in the least. THANKFULLY, USAir already spent the last five years going through two bankruptcies and that's in the past. You wanna go back in that mess?



Look, I'm not trying to call you out or anything. I know we got our own problems here (psss...just like at other companies), but right now I'd rather work at PSA.


Good luck in training lindsaya99

 

[ex j-41]

I don't think delta has to be in bankruptcy for Comair to lose the flying.

We need one rate for one airplane. We need a max of 5 years to top out in pay. (This way it gives new companies less of an advantage). All airlines need the same rate.

Then it is up to management wether or not a company is profitable.
Right now all profits are because of low wages, not because of any skill
by management.

 

[lindsaya99]

I don't think delta has to be in bankruptcy for Comair to lose the flying.

That is true. In fact they did lose flying before Delta went into bankruptcy. Granted, they didn't lose any of their existing flight hours but they lost out on growth for over two years. The pay freeze that the pilot excepted was intended to bring more aircraft to the fleet but that never happened. The opposite occured only a couple of months after bankruptcy. One of my last flights before I was furloughed was taking a jet to Tuscon for storage (i.e. returning plane to Bombardier).

 

[Stuka Luva]

I don't think delta has to be in bankruptcy for Comair to lose the flying.

That's right, but what I was trying to say is that during bankruptcy it's like Thunderdome, anything goes

We need one rate for one airplane.

Do you mean, not a blended rate?

We need a max of 5 years to top out in pay. (This way it gives new companies less of an advantage).

Ok great, but extremely unlikely. Either way, you can bring this up to the Neg.Commitee come contract amendment time

All airlines need the same rate.

Sure, sounds fine to me, but never going to happen

Then it is up to management wether or not a company is profitable.
Right now all profits are because of low wages, not because of any skill
by management.

Absolutely

 

[ex j-41]

Originally Posted by ex j-41
All airlines need the same rate.
Sure, sounds fine to me, but never going to happen

This is what the new ALPA should make as their goal. The pressure needs to be off the pilots, and put on management where it belongs. We fly airplanes and do a good safe job of it. Now it is their turn to do their jobs properly.
If we had an industry wide standard for pay then whipsawing would not occur.

 

[lindsaya99]

Off topic but does PSA ever have overnights in DCA or IAD?

 

[Stuka Luva]

Off topic but does PSA ever have overnights in DCA or IAD?

Just breezing quickly through a CLT bid packet, and off the top of my head...

Not many


DAY or TYS might do a little more (that'd be to DCA most likely), but since the Air Wiskey presence in DCA there is little need for PSA to overnight there.


Just a best guess

 

[paddlehigh]

I have least two overnights per month in dca

 

[Thermocouple]

TYS still sees a few DCA overnights. Some months you end up never overnighting there, and some months you have 4 or more DCA overnights.

 

[B190Captain]

Just saw that 9 more FO's coming to TYS not counting the 4 or so that are already here as of Oct 1. Just don't know these days. One day they say no backfills in TYS and the next, the flood gates open.

Yes there are DCA overnights. Do we still stay at that Eisenhower dump? The only hotel where the dead owner is "resting in peace" in a climate controlled mausoleum next to the the parking lot.

As for the traveldump in DAY, YES it is a dump. Nothing a few gallons of bleach and Raid couldn't fix. Oh and by the way, BUY YOUR OWN SHEETS and pillowcases. Welcome to the airlines!!

Good luck to us all!!

 

[EDUC8-or]

Off topic but does PSA ever have overnights in DCA or IAD?

IAD: no, DCA: yes, but not out of CLT. (Well, I take that back, if you're on reserve here you might overnight there, but rarely)

Don't stay at the Travelodge. That place is NASTY! When I was based in DAY I took my car up there and got a crashpad. I was in the crewroom in DAY and saw 1-2 posters for crashpads. They're out there. Once Dayton gets properly staffed there's a strong chance you won't fly a whole lot until things really pick up in the Spring and Summer. If you stay in the Travelodge they will come pick you up at the airport, but won't take you too many other places. Plus you won't have a kitchen so you'll be very limited food and recreation wise.

Have fun at the Dayton Airport Hotel. Watch out for mice!