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Just reporting the news. I hate the idea of "criminalizing" aviation safety... Particularly when it is some French version of Elliot Spitzer trying to make a political career out of the misfortune of others.

There is no Statute of Limitations on this sort of thing.... anyone know if CAL settled the civil litigation?

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Prosecutor Seeks Trial in Concorde Crash
Wednesday March 12, 99 am ET Prosecutor Asks for Trial Against Continental in 2000 Concorde Crash

PARIS (AP) -- French prosecutors have asked a judge to put Continental Airlines and four people on trial for manslaughter in connection with the 2000 crash of a Concorde jet that killed 113 people, officials said Wednesday.
The prosecutor's office in the Paris suburb of Pontoise said it submitted the recommendation for trial in late February. The court is not bound to follow the prosecutors' suggestion, and it was unclear Wednesday when the judge would respond to the request.

The Air France Concorde crashed shortly after takeoff from Paris' Charles de Gaulle airport in July 2000, killing all 109 people on board -- mostly German tourists -- and four on the ground.
French investigators blamed a titanium strip left on the runway by a Continental Airlines DC-10.
The metal strip caused one of the Concorde's tires to burst, which sent debris flying that punctured the jet's fuel tanks. The French judicial inquiry also determined the tanks lacked sufficient protection from shock -- and that Concorde's makers had been aware of the weakness since 1979.
The prosecutor recommended trying Continental and two employees who allegedly installed the defective strip, John Taylor and maintenance chief Stanley Ford. The prosecutor also wants two French officials to go on trial: Claude Frantzen, former head of training at the French civil aviation authority, and Henri Perrier, ex-chief of the Concorde program.
 
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Just reporting the news. I hate the idea of "criminalizing" aviation safety... Particularly when it is some French version of Elliot Spitzer trying to make a political career out of the misfortune of others.

There is no Statute of Limitations on this sort of thing.... anyone know if CAL settled the civil litigation?

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Prosecutor Seeks Trial in Concorde Crash
Wednesday March 12, 99 am ET Prosecutor Asks for Trial Against Continental in 2000 Concorde Crash

PARIS (AP) -- French prosecutors have asked a judge to put Continental Airlines and four people on trial for manslaughter in connection with the 2000 crash of a Concorde jet that killed 113 people, officials said Wednesday.
The prosecutor's office in the Paris suburb of Pontoise said it submitted the recommendation for trial in late February. The court is not bound to follow the prosecutors' suggestion, and it was unclear Wednesday when the judge would respond to the request.

The Air France Concorde crashed shortly after takeoff from Paris' Charles de Gaulle airport in July 2000, killing all 109 people on board -- mostly German tourists -- and four on the ground.
French investigators blamed a titanium strip left on the runway by a Continental Airlines DC-10.
The metal strip caused one of the Concorde's tires to burst, which sent debris flying that punctured the jet's fuel tanks. The French judicial inquiry also determined the tanks lacked sufficient protection from shock -- and that Concorde's makers had been aware of the weakness since 1979.
The prosecutor recommended trying Continental and two employees who allegedly installed the defective strip, John Taylor and maintenance chief Stanley Ford. The prosecutor also wants two French officials to go on trial: Claude Frantzen, former head of training at the French civil aviation authority, and Henri Perrier, ex-chief of the Concorde program.


why not put all the defendants parents on trial as well for giving birth to them. damn cheese eating surrender monkeys. this is outrageous, how bout putting the concord its self on trial.
 
Why not put Airbus on trial. They or their fore runner built the Concord which was clearly unsafe if a blown tire could cause such a catastrophy. I'm sure they also have more money than John Taylor or Stanley Ford too.
 
I'm sure this is some French Version of Elliot Spitzer trying to make a name for himself.

A friend on Wall Street said the floor of the market cheered this morning and clapped when news of Spitzer's resignation was announced. He is a real opportunistic, lying, well, I think he's the anti-christ.
 
I have no problem with the French going after my employer in court.

But only if they also:

Convict posthumously Captain Christian Marty for taking off with a tailwind component that put the AC several tons above it's RTOW (MGTOW) and with a MAC aft of certificated levels.

Convict posthumously the FE for the un-commanded shutdown of the #2 engine just as the aircraft was leaving the ground. Although surging, the engine was still producing thrust. By moving forward into undisturbed air, it may have recovered most or all of it's thrust. AF procedures require an engine shutdown to be initiated only at the command of the Captain and only once a minimum altitude of 400' AEE has been reached.

Convict the AF mechanics who placed an unairworthy spacer on the number one bogey, resulting in delayed acceleration, which allowed the Concord to hit the TR spacer in the first place.

Convict the people who designed the Michelin tire that disintegrated, rupturing the number five fuel tank.

Convict AAIB, BEA DGAC and CAA officials who negligently allowed the Concorde to operate with deficient tires, even after the near loss of a BA airframe in Dulles for the exact same problem.

Convict CDG airport operation personnel who neglected to conduct a pre-takeoff runway contamination check, required for all Concorde operations.

It's politically expedient and fun to blame the stupid Americans, but this disaster was a monument of human failures, neglect, negligence and hubris. The metal strip on the runway was only the final link and most certainly not willful, which cannot be said about the actions of many people involved in this tragedy.

Screw the French legal system. Doctor heal thyself!
 
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It's politically expedient and fun to blame the stupid Americans, but this disaster was a monument of human failures, neglect, negligence and hubris. The metal strip on the runway was only the final link and most certainly not willful, which cannot be said about the actions of many people involved in this tragedy.

You forgot to mention French Arrogance.
 
This is only the beginning of a trend of liability for pilots. Pilots are human, humans make mistakes. The liability could send the proffesion in the same direction as the medical field. It will also have an almost monumental impact on safety as people will feel more exposed to repercussion for speaking up. Never mind whether a pilot protects himself in court, the legal fees alone could be enough to break you.

I've been to France, I love France, ******************** the French legal system.
 
Those USELESS Cheese-Eating Surrender Monkeys! :D

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