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Proper Leaning Procedures in Mountain Flying

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Simply put, when the throttle is open and airflow passes through the carburetor, it passes through a constriction in the throat of the carburetor; we refer to this restriction as the venturi. The venturi sees a speed increase in the airflow and a pressure drop. A fuel port, or jet, is located in this low pressure area. The faster the airflow, the greater the pressure drop, the greater fuel flow that is drawn into the airflow.

So far, so good.

Close the throttle. Very little air flowing through the venturi. The engine is a suction pump, and the throttle is like your hand over the hose of a vacum cleaner. What does the vacum cleaner do when you cap your hand over the hose? The pressure drops in the hose even more (like manifold pressure does when you close the throttle, right??), and the engine strains to get more air.

Same for your engine. The engine still gets fuel, or it wouldn't run, but it's not getting the fuel through the main fuel jet. There's no air flowing past that jet to draw the fuel out. Your mixture controls that jet...your mixture isn't doing anything because that jet isn't doing anything. Your mixture isn't controlling or adjusting fuel flow, because the fuel source that the mixture adjusts isn't in use.

Where the throttle is closed, it doesn't seal perfectly. Otherwise the engine would simply die. Along the edge of the throttle plate a little air gets by. It rushes in due to the low pressure on the engine side of the throttle plate..."suction," if you will. Suction, caused by the suction machine, the engine.

Adjacent to this spot where the air leaks by is the idle jet. This jet also has it's own mixture control, but it's a fixed control set by a mechanic when the meachanic adjusts the idle mixture. The only control you have over this is the idle cutoff function of the mixture control. This is a very rough control; you're actually cutting off the fuel rather than adjusting it's flow, and it's a very, very minute range in which this works.

If your idle mixture is set properly you should be able to set the throttle to idle, and oh-so-slowly retard the mixture toward the cutoff position. At some point the engine rpm should rise about 25 rpm, and the engine should then die. If it doesn't rise at least that, then you're operating with too lean an idle mixure. If it rises much more than that, you're operating with too rich an idle mixture. Either condition needs maintenance.

That little bump, that little 25 rpm rise, is all the mixture adjustment you get in idle. Otherwise, your mixture isn't doing a darn thing no matter how much you twiddle with it. That little 25 rpm jump isn't mixture control, either, but shutting off the fuel, instead. Something entirely different. Far less reliable, far less repeatable, harder to locate, and not consistant.

If you're working an injected engine, the semantics are somewhat different.
 
Thanks :)

I didn't really buy it before, but I really really thought about it tonight and just sat down and thought about the basics of the principle and wow does it make sense.

Fantastic stuff! Thanks again.

One question though.

Is it better to have the mixture set for "idle" at a SL elevation or where you house the plane?

I'd think SL is where you'd want it and that would mean if you were high enough, you should lean for taxi, etc.

If you didn't set it for a SL altitude and you were at a ~5,000' airport, you'd run too lean coming down to Florida for vacation with your family.

Not sure if that really makes sense, but it does in my head :p.

Thanks for any insight!

-mini

*edit*
Or would that still not make a difference unless you were up at a really really high altitude during taxi/ground ops?
 
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Minitour,

When you wrote the part that said,

I'd think SL is where you'd want it and that would mean if you were high enough, you should lean for taxi, etc.

I think you missed the entire point of the previous discussions about why you can't lean for taxi. Remember?

The idle mixture should be adjusted any time a general climatic change occurs (seasonally) or any time you base the airplane at a different elevation. It's routine maintenance, and should be checked after every flight, and adjusted as required.
 
Eh...I guess I kinda f'd that one up...

I'll try again...

If you have the "idle mixture" set for your airport and you live at a 5,000' airport, when you decide to take the family down to Florida for vacation, you'd be running too lean at full rich. So shouldn't you just have it set for SL Pressure and density and then lean for (what I should have said) Takeoff?

Otherwise, you'd run out of fuel for the engine at sea level, right?

-mini
 
avbug said:
Dunno what your image was supposed to be, byu; you'll have to be more creative.

I'm sorry I don't understand.... Maybe you misunderstood, I wasn't being sarcastic... thank you for the info. That first time around answered my question.

I was just explaining why my pre-solo written didn't cover leaning procedures for T/O in Florida. It's the same reason why pre-solo writtens in Utah don't cover a whole lot on Florida thunderstorms... different kind of GA flying.
 
avbug said:
Dunno what your image was supposed to be, byu; you'll have to be more creative.

Sorry, the image was supposed to be a thumbs up, but I'm computer retarded... it took me a few weeks just to figure out how to get the quote thing working right.
 
avbug,

As far as the ground leaning goes- if you taxi with a power setting of around 800-1000 RPM, will leaning have any effect? In this case, you're not idling, so the main jet will be used in this case, correct?

Thanks,

Chris.
 
avbug said:
Leaning on the ground for idle is futile; you're not leaning the idle mixture, as that can only be leaned by the mechanic while working on the carburetor...you don't control it.

I've seen this before, and it begs the question: "Why do the plugs foul (appearently) in some (higher-performance) engines if I don't lean during taxi?"

On hot, high DA days, If I don't lean a bit after starting a Seminole or a 172RG, by the time we do instrument/radio checks, and taxi to run-up, the plugs are fouled and have to be cleaned via the high rpm/excessive lean method. If we pull the mixtures back about a third right after start, the run-up is fine.

It seems that I am doing something with the leaning. Can anyone explain?
 

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