Pro Pilot Corp Jet Satisfaction Survey

[splatt]

A pilot I know flew a brand new one. They gave it back to the factory recently. It broke all the time. Even had a hydraulic failure (at 50 hours) which is big trouble in that thing if you don't have a very long runway. He flew it single pilot after flying a 400a. He hated it. He said the avionics would just do things at the most inappropriate times, without pilot input, making single pilot even more difficult. He'd explain what happened to the engineers, they would say. yeah we know about that and don't know why it does that. Final opinion from my friend... He'd rather have a Beechjet.

 

[On Your Six]

Unfortunately the dang sticker/painted window cost $600...LOL. It does make it a little less ugly though.
I think some are still skeptical. I had to do a lot of research before I was comfortable. Having 2 friends who are demo pilot's on it helped. They both said 2 years ago they would not have let us buy it. It has to suit your mission. Ours is only 600 miles.

Did your friends get commission checks????? Nice airplane for light loads and less than 700 mile missions.

 

[Tgaug6300]

Just curious if you have looked at resale on those? It is not good.

 

[400A]

Just curious if you have looked at resale on those? It is not good.

From the research I did, the only one holding it much better was the Citation series. If you run the numbers based on the known discount level, it is not bad at all. Way better than the Beechjet. Very new lears are doing ok, older ones are horrible. Hawkers Just a few points better than the Premier. We keep our airplanes so low time that we do pretty well in that department. We only fly 100-150 hours per year. The resale value was not worth spending 1.8 million more for a smaller, slower citation. Cost of money will make up most of the difference.

 

[willNOTfly4free]

Good luck with the new jet. I've heard many positive comments regarding the Premier.

 

[LJ45]

Unfortunately the dang sticker/painted window cost $600...LOL. It does make it a little less ugly though..

WHAT !!! that is a fake 4th window....NOW that is funny!

Lets put some fake dual main tires next and fake trailing link gear.

 

[400A]

WHAT !!! that is a fake 4th window....NOW that is funny!

Lets put some fake dual main tires next and fake trailing link gear

Yep, they will go very well with the Lear 45's fake APU. LOL.

 

[LJ45]

ouch!!!! that was nasty, sort of like kicking a man when he is down. You bought an airplane Bro...relax it's not like I'm talking about your women, or man if that is the case ...LOL

 

[400A]

ouch!!!! that was nasty, sort of like kicking a man when he is down. You bought an airplane Bro...relax it's not like I'm talking about your women, or man if that is the case ...LOL

No offense taken, just having a little fun as well. We looked hard at used 45's, but that market has gone nuts on post SN# 100 airplanes that are low time.

After 8 years in the Beechjets we were ready to try something new.

 

[Raskal]

A pilot I know flew a brand new one. They gave it back to the factory recently. It broke all the time. Even had a hydraulic failure (at 50 hours) which is big trouble in that thing if you don't have a very long runway. He flew it single pilot after flying a 400a. He hated it. He said the avionics would just do things at the most inappropriate times, without pilot input, making single pilot even more difficult. He'd explain what happened to the engineers, they would say. yeah we know about that and don't know why it does that. Final opinion from my friend... He'd rather have a Beechjet.

Huh, I think I've flown with that guy...hell, I think he's our check airman. Let me guess, he's an old timer who thinks gps is less reliable than vor's, thinks analog gauges make more sense, fadec's are a waste of money, FMS's make people stupid, still files every airway and intersection on flight plans...blah blah blah.

Just jokin, but seriously, is he comfortable with new technology? I can't count how many times I've answered the PF's question of "What the hell is it doing?" with "Exactly what you told it to do".