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It all depends. Figure 60 hours @ $100/hr..... $7k sounds a little steep but not outrageous. If I was trying to save $$$ and location didn't matter, I'd find an old strip out in the south or the midwest. Regardless of location, consider a 150/152 (if you like high-wing) instead of a 172. Good luck.
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What they alluded to is there are a number of variables. One is location. Prime location, busy airport, metro city, means they pay more to rent their facility, and they may (though not likely) pay their Instructors more. In addition, their insurance may be higher. Also, gas will be more expensive.
Depending on where you live, you may find a smaller, nearby, airport that will charge you less to rent one of their aircraft.
That's one factor. Another is how persistent you are going to be. For me, I wanted my PPL, not a career in aviation (I'm to old), and it was when I had some extra money in my pocket. As a result, I went through 2 flight schools, 3 different kinds of airplanes, and 4 different airplanes (one kind resulted in two different airplanes), 5 instructors, and 15 months. Oh, I started out in a 152. I hated it. Changed airports, flew a Maule Tri-Gear. Loved it. Maule broke (not me!!), flew 2 different 172's.
In hindsight, that is absolutely the worst way to do it. Get your money together, take a week, go fly 2 x / day, buy the King CD video set, study it when you are not flying. Read everything you can. In short order, you'll find that you are progressing, and you'll end up with a pilots license.
If you are gainfully employed, get the King set (as in www.kingschools.com ), go through the PPL stuff, take a week off, go learn to fly. If you do it that way, you should comfortably be able to get through solo the first week. It's an important milestone.
The rules are you need 40 hours. I took 70+. Assuming each hour cost some amount of money, you can see that doing it in a concentrated fashion is more cost effective.
Depending on where you live, you may find a smaller, nearby, airport that will charge you less to rent one of their aircraft.
That's one factor. Another is how persistent you are going to be. For me, I wanted my PPL, not a career in aviation (I'm to old), and it was when I had some extra money in my pocket. As a result, I went through 2 flight schools, 3 different kinds of airplanes, and 4 different airplanes (one kind resulted in two different airplanes), 5 instructors, and 15 months. Oh, I started out in a 152. I hated it. Changed airports, flew a Maule Tri-Gear. Loved it. Maule broke (not me!!), flew 2 different 172's.
In hindsight, that is absolutely the worst way to do it. Get your money together, take a week, go fly 2 x / day, buy the King CD video set, study it when you are not flying. Read everything you can. In short order, you'll find that you are progressing, and you'll end up with a pilots license.
If you are gainfully employed, get the King set (as in www.kingschools.com ), go through the PPL stuff, take a week off, go learn to fly. If you do it that way, you should comfortably be able to get through solo the first week. It's an important milestone.
The rules are you need 40 hours. I took 70+. Assuming each hour cost some amount of money, you can see that doing it in a concentrated fashion is more cost effective.
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Yup.
Long taxi's to multiple runways, sometimes having to wait until the runup pad is clear to accomplish checks, being number 3 or 4 for takeoff as well as 3 to 4 aircraft on the opposite side along with some intersection departures, long cruise back and forth to the practice area, constantly having to maneuver out of the way or discontinue when you spot other planes in the practice area, being number 8 in the pattern, some days you can be calling in for 15-20 minutes and not get acknowledged by tower it's so busy, plenty of extended downwinds and 360's, not to mention the more complex airspace of JFK, LGA, EWR and ISP. Theres a lot going on before the student is even allowed to go solo. Fuel prices factor into all of this as well.
Long taxi's to multiple runways, sometimes having to wait until the runup pad is clear to accomplish checks, being number 3 or 4 for takeoff as well as 3 to 4 aircraft on the opposite side along with some intersection departures, long cruise back and forth to the practice area, constantly having to maneuver out of the way or discontinue when you spot other planes in the practice area, being number 8 in the pattern, some days you can be calling in for 15-20 minutes and not get acknowledged by tower it's so busy, plenty of extended downwinds and 360's, not to mention the more complex airspace of JFK, LGA, EWR and ISP. Theres a lot going on before the student is even allowed to go solo. Fuel prices factor into all of this as well.
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PhatAJ2008 said:
Flightline Tallahassee?
If so, that price is about right. It could be lower, but I would plan on $7000. The folks at flightline set very realistic expectations for the students.
Do you plan on training in the warrior or 172? The 172 is quite a bit cheaper b/c it does not have moving map gps. I suggest it...it will make you a better pilot, and hell, it's cheaper.
I am taking my checkride within the next couple weeks. Send me a pm if you have any questions.
BTW, you go to FSU?
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I agree with sky37d-- save up, set aside some time, and knock it out fast.
Your costs will be reduced once you start flying by yourself and don't have to rent the CFI too.
The 150/152 is a little cramped, but it's a solid little plane and cheaper to rent than a 172.
Even better yet, if you have access to a Cub/Champ/170/180/185-- or a P-51...hahaaa-- I'd go for that. You'll develop good pedal habits right off the bat.
Your costs will be reduced once you start flying by yourself and don't have to rent the CFI too.
The 150/152 is a little cramped, but it's a solid little plane and cheaper to rent than a 172.
Even better yet, if you have access to a Cub/Champ/170/180/185-- or a P-51...hahaaa-- I'd go for that. You'll develop good pedal habits right off the bat.
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The least expensive and best quality of learning will be if you really go at it. Do it when your regular job pressures are lowest and least demanding on your time so you can really devote your brain cells and enthusiam to flying. Do a lot of ground school study before you start actually flying. Choose your instructor carefully . . someone you respect and can get along with. You want somebody affable, but somewhat demanding that's going to push you to get it right. Try to fly every day, if practical. If you go for 5-6 days between flights, you're not going to learn or develop your "muscle memory" as fast. You'll wind up repeating mistakes and having to do things over and over. Everytime you go to fly, your instructor should have told you what you're going to concentrate on, the day before. BE PREPARED for every flight . . . you're paying for it. Sit down and "chair fly" the flight going through every switch movement, radio call, and flight manuever you're likely to make. There's nothing more emotionally rewarding for the instructor than to see you progress rapidly and really take training seriously. This isn't high school driver's ed. It'll feel like drinking from a fire hose, but believe me, if you take it seriously, it'll come together and all make sense fairly quickly. If you start getting airsick (not uncommon) tell your instructor. You can't learn much if you're thinking about throwing up instead of flying the machine. You'll get acclimatized to flying and pretty soon it won't bother you. If it continues, seek the advice of the doc who gave you your medical certificate. There's some light airsickness meds that you can use for a few flights until your equalibrium gets used to the movement.
And BTW, before I take a simulator checkride, I still "chair fly" . . . . and I've been flying 25 years and am a 747 Captain.
And BTW, before I take a simulator checkride, I still "chair fly" . . . . and I've been flying 25 years and am a 747 Captain.
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