Premier down at Oshkosh

[t-bone]

I think s&*t is still hitting the fan in #13...

 

[jonjuan]

I am curious how the tail does not look as broken in picture 13 on tmz's site as it does on the very first picture released the day of the crash as well as the first close up video that shows Jack all busted up. Over zealous firemen?

Yeah, because he shoulda been thinking, gee it looks like it could buff right out so I better be dainty with the crash axe. If it were me, that front windscreen woulda been gone.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Jack's boys have some AWESOME tools. They can fix it...

 

[SpaceBall 1]

Looks like he got loose coming off of turn 2. Glad everyone walked away from it.

 

[400A]

Because when the TMZ photos were taken, both engines were still at TOGA power. People who were there said they were that way for several minutes until Jack came to and shut them down. The forward thrust kept the gap pushed together.

 

[BushwickBill]

Don't thing he has crashed a P-51, Jack is on the Yankee air Museum Board of Director's with me. I saw him over there yesterday, he flew his Mustang back to KYIP and then came back in his jet. I see Jack flying all the time, he looks like a good pilot. I have flown formation with him in a B-17 and his Mustang. Only guessing because he is such a nice guy he was trying to work with the tower. OSH can get real busy with some request that are not normal.

I agree with you Yip on OSH being a zoo but come on! Last time I checked LGA, ATL and LAX can be a zoo as well. Yet you don't see professionals stacking aircraft right and left.

 

[NCherches]

....The nose wheel strut doesnt look so lanky when the it's on its belly.

 

[wolfpackpilot]

The man is what, 68? Maybe its time to leave flying swept-wing jets single pilot to a younger professional pilot....

No you didn't just say that...

 

[75 Driver]

Because when the TMZ photos were taken, both engines were still at TOGA power. People who were there said they were that way for several minutes until Jack came to and shut them down. The forward thrust kept the gap pushed together.

Rumor only (from Gov sources) aircraft was extremely low on fuel and made an "unconventional approach" to get down before fuel ran out.

 

[gulfstreameric]

It shows that Nascar people can not make right turns, one try and it nearly becomes fatal ...

 

[NCherches]

It shows that Nascar people can not make right turns, one try and it nearly becomes fatal ...

:laugh:

 

[400A]

Rumor only (from Gov sources) aircraft was extremely low on fuel and made an "unconventional approach" to get down before fuel ran out.

Easy to do in the Premier. Really true if he did not plan for extended low altitude ops. The Premier is really thirsty down low.

 

[BoilerUP]

What's a 45min reserve in the Premier? For comparison's sake, its about 600lb in the CJ2+...

 

[400A]

What's a 45min reserve in the Premier? For comparison's sake, its about 600lb in the CJ2+...

I can't get my hands on the flight planning guide at the moment, but my old marketing info indicates 747 lbs.

 

[NCherches]

600 in a CJ2+ will sometimes give ya the 'LOW FUEL' annunciator lights... id rather carry 1000lbs to keep that light from coming on ever, even if the extra fuel isn't usually required.

 

[LJ45]

"In an interview published on the Roush Fenway Racing Web site, Roush said despite loss of sight in his left eye, a broken jaw and compression fracture of his back, he will fly again. In an August 13 interview on at the Michigan Speedway, Roush said, "The reality of it...on a trip arrival into Oshkosh, I was put in conflict with the flight plan of another airplane close to the ground and I was unable to address the conflict and keep the airplane flying. I ground-looped the airplane.""

WTF?

 

[Lynxman]

What you've never ground looped a plane because of conflicting traffic?

 

[LJ45]

What you've never ground looped a plane because of conflicting traffic?

:laugh:

 

[ProFracPilot]

Ground loop; stall. Don't split hairs. Aren't they the same thing?

 

[75 Driver]

Don't you have to be on the ground to ground loop.

 

[Mud Eagle]

That's a first -- a nose-dragger ground loop.

 

[j41driver]

That's a first -- a nose-dragger ground loop.

...from 30 feet.

 

[A-Track]

Poor quality video but at around 40 seconds in you can watch his approach and kind of see the crash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwUzdKOEMKQ&p=6BB5696CF4EE1423&playnext=1&index=26

 

[FlyingPieceOfSt]

Good find.

 

[LJ45]

what the hell was he trying to do?

 

[Lynxman]

I just don't understand what he was doing. There was nothing stabilized about that entire landing.

 

[siouxicide]

From what I can see that was demonstration of extremely poor piloting skills/decision making.

 

[lowtimedriver]

Photo Sequence
http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/jack_roushs_plane_crashed_pictures#tab=most_recent

Nice stabilized approach. Well, he almost made it.

 

[G100driver]

After watching the video and seeing the pictures it is very obvious to me what happened .... Rousch was obviously distracted while eating a jelly doughnut on short final.

 

[400A]

After watching the video and seeing the pictures it is very obvious to me what happened .... Rousch was obviously distracted while eating a jelly doughnut on short final.

That would explain the jelly all over his face and shirt...LOL