Pre-Screen (Semi-Invite XJT)

[mckpickle]

Congrats on getting the e-mail back,

Now, don't shoot yourself down before you get aloft, take down all your personal info NOW, better yet, get this whole thread deleted...XJT people lurk here, probably aren't gonna take too kindly to all this (supposedly) confidential stuff being posted. If you're still gonna post all this, at least use an alias or something...

I see you've cross posted this at Jet Careers as well**hint hint**

He already shot himself in the foot when he posted this stuff here. If you don't think people who do hiring read this stuff your crazy! Did anyone else think the post was one of those, "hello, I'm a prince in Nigeria and need your help freeing 10 million dollars from my goverments account".

How many pink slips exactly? I counted at least 3 but lost count at the CFI. I forget from my Flight Instructing days, what is it again when you blame someone/something else for poor performance?

 

[Jack Mahogoff]

He already shot himself in the foot when he posted this stuff here. If you don't think people who do hiring read this stuff your crazy! Did anyone else think the post was one of those, "hello, I'm a prince in Nigeria and need your help freeing 10 million dollars from my goverments account".

How many pink slips exactly? I counted at least 3 but lost count at the CFI. I forget from my Flight Instructing days, what is it again when you blame someone/something else for poor performance?

LMAO pickle! OK I'll bite:

Umm, rationalization? DING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kind of like: surplus1 says comair is going down the tubes because... (insert excuse here)...

 

[FN FAL]

XJT - Interview (Info)
Hello,

My name is Mark from Los angeles, CA USA. I have just had my 24th birthday a couple of weeks ago. At which time I applied to every known regional in this country and few foeign operators. Currently my logbook indicates 1200TT and 120MEL. Couple of days ago I found an interesting e-mail from XJT (12 Questions and choose your interview date) type of materials. Curious to know how long is the wait time from time you respond to the 12 questions and confirmed? At XJT I got this far on my own no walk in. However, at Mesa all materials were walked in. My conection was a SR. Capt. CRJ (ORD) additionally IOE/Line Check Airmen and in a leadership position with board of trustees. I'll attach copy of the 12 questions and my response open to thoughts and ideas. Also will try and post a letter of recommendation (INTERNAL) Private contact [email protected]

It is a pleasure to hear from you as quickly as I did! Below are the answers to the following twelve questions the company sent.

ExpressJet Airlines, Inc. (dba Continental Express) has received your resume for the First Officer position. To be considered for an interview, please reply to this email with answers to all 12 questions below and forward an updated copy of your resume to me. PLEASE RESPOND BY JUNE 2ND TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS SESSION.

1. We are currently hiring for the training course that begins within 3 weeks of your interview date. If offered a position, would you be able to attend this course?

Yes! I would be able to attend training that would start three weeks after my interview date. I can only see one obstacle that would be in the way. I’ll be in Israel June 28 – July 10 on vacation. Nothing more and am ready to provide excellent, safe service to ExpressJet Airlines.

2. We are hiring First Officers who are flexible to work out of any of our three hubs located in Cleveland, Ohio, Newark, New Jersey or Houston, Texas. Are you willing and able to work at any of these locations?

I’ll make it happen as to be able and willing to work in one of the three listed above locations. My preference would be (KEWR) Newark, NJ.

3. Are you currently working? If so where? What is your position?

Yes. I am currently working. Location of Flight instruction (Part 61) is at my local airport (KVNY, Van Nuys Airport) in Los Angeles, CA. My position is CFI (Flight Instructor) providing donated flight instruction to this group and in addition to this I am currently holding title as President, Director of MX. I work under the supervision of an A&P / IA. From working on 100hr. to an annual inspection amongst other things is a great experience. Since its foundation in 1951, Kitty Hawk Squadron 3 (Boy Scouts of America; Aviation Air Explorer Scout Post 3) has trained hundreds of young men and women to fly. If you are between the ages of 14 and 21, you are eligible to participate in this exciting program (www.squadron3.com ). Ground and Flight Instruction are provided at no charge by our volunteer Certified Flight Instructors. Flight Training is performed in a Cessna 172 provided by the North Hollywood Optimist Club, the primary sponsor of Squadron 3 since 1951These two organizations are recognized as IRS (501 c) non-profit outfits. In addition to Air Explorers also provide for pay (Part 61) at a flight school at KVNY. I am currently training for my MEI (Multi-Instructor Add On).

4. How much total time have you flown in the last 6 months? How much of that time is multi time?

I have flown 225 TT and 105 is AMEL

5. What aircraft are you currently flying?

BE-76, PA-34-200, C-172

6. Do you have any accidents or incidents on your record? If yes, please give details, including dates.

NO

7. Do you have any violations on your record? If yes, please give details, including dates.

None

8. Have you ever failed a check ride or stage check? If yes, please give details, including dates.

Yes. I have been issued pink slip for:

ASEL-Commercial, a new PTS had gone into affect that very day. It was my misfortune and instructor ability to stay updated that I was unaware and only was notified by the DPE on exam morning after said exam had begun. (FAA:-S-8081-12B 08-1-2002) - The area of operation was a Power Off – 180 degree accuracy landing.

The following are two most important lessons I learned about my aviation training! I went out of town paid certain amount of money and expected to get trained and pass FAA Check Ride. They had onsite examiners working for them

Commercial AMEL- Add on (Jan. 2003) was due to lateness of gear retraction on last take off before going in for parking.

Certified Flight Instructor: (Jan. 2003) certain things took place that I feel were unfair and against the FAA-Plan of Action. I retested few times at this flight school with two separate examiners and was unsuccessful. Thus, I left and came home to LA where I retook and passed. I am by far not stating I was not prepared for at least one of the exams. However, the majority of what occurred was inappropriate. I am unable to describe this with out a formal letter to you at this time. Think it requires both a full written letter and oral discussion which I’ll be more then happy to explain. What I have learned over the past two-half years is it made me a much better instructor and pilot for the long run! In conclusion this flight school has been able to escape MULTIPLE Attempts by the Las Vegas, NV FSDO. I was made aware of it after my departure.

**Currently I have taken on the challenge to obtain my MEI (Multi-Instructor) add on. ** I never stop learning.

9. We have interview dates available for the month of June. Which day works best for you?

Tuesday, June 20th

10. What airport will you be traveling in and out of for the interview (the airport must have Continental or Continental Express service)? KLAX

11. What is your name (as it appears on your driver’s license)? Mark Howard Young

12. What is the best contact number to reach you (Monday – Friday 8 am-5pm CST) should I have any additional questions?

Letters of Recommendation:
Years Acquainted: 5
Flying Comments: N/A
Work Comments: To whom it may concern: I would like to recommend Mark Young for a First Officer position with Mesa Airlines. Mark is a hard worker and does not let minor setbacks keep him from achieving his goals. He will make a valuable addition to the company and is a credit to the aviation profession and I recommend him without hesitation. Please feel free to contact me if you would to discuss this further. Sincerely (NAME Remains Left out)

READ THE ENTIRE POST CAREFULLY! (Paragraph 1)
All information is true and correct to best of my knowledge and was seriousle sent in!

What does "NAME Remains Left out" mean and how come you didn't capitalize the first letter of "out"?

 

[pilot754]

Overcoming Obstacles

Everyone faces personal and professional obstacles throughout his or her life, whether the obstacles are financial, physical, emotional, or based in gender, class, or race. Sometimes you are your own biggest obstacle, when you allow your fears and self-doubt to stand in the way of your success.

Obstacles are like mountains; they’re not going to move themselves. You have to scale the mountain or go around it, reduce it to a molehill with dynamite, or dig a tunnel straight through it. You must take action to overcome it, not sit at the foot of the mountain passively hoping it will suddenly vanish so you can get on your way.

Obstacles are more than just giant problems; problems “occur” whereas obstacles are “there.” Obstacles may have always been there, or they may crop up. A problem is more finite than an obstacle. Rarely does a problem last forever. You seek to solve problems to achieve the best possible outcome, but, even if you take no action, a problem will reach some resolution eventually, though it may not be the outcome you’d like. But an obstacle won’t change itself or go away unless you do something about it.

No one has a magical formula to deal with obstacles (no dynamite except in metaphors), but you can adopt and implement some good practices when you’re faced with obstacles that can help to reduce a daunting mountain into stepping stones to success:

Believe in yourself. The great Norman Vincent Peale said it best: “Formulate and stamp indelibly on your mind a mental picture of yourself as succeeding. Hold this picture tenaciously. Never permit it to fade. Your mind will seek to develop the picture...Do not build up obstacles in your imagination.” The first step to conquering obstacles is to realize that the answer lies within you. Maturity and experience will give you the confidence that you can overcome any impediment. In the same way, when you and your team encounter an obstacle, you must lead the team to believe in its ability to overcome it.

Seek help. Ask for guidance and support from a mentor, team, classmate, or teacher. You don’t have to overcome any obstacle solo. If a key executive leaves your organization at a crucial time, even if the loss is devastating, you should realize you have many resources to help overcome that obstacle, within and outside the organization. If you are a member or leader of a team, seek the help of appropriate experts on that team, or bring together everyone you can think of -- people in your organization, among your colleagues, throughout your sphere of influence -- and form a sort of task force to overcome the obstacle together.

Setback? Or catastrophe? When you encounter an obstacle, seek perspective and stability. How big is the obstacle, really? When you calmly and thoroughly examine the problem, you may find you are imagining the obstacle is larger than it actually is. It may only seem immovable. For example, if an important, long-term customer is dissatisfied with your organization and making noises that they might defect to the competition, you may have a lot of work to do to keep them, but it’s not a catastrophe unless you do nothing.

I'll become an airliner or corporate pilot soon and see some or all on the line! For those who doubt me so be it. Will not allow adversity to strike me down. Would even bet that after all I had to go through to get to my point today be better off in IOE/Initial training the some of the others before and during me.

 

[g-code]

This convinced me to study harder.

 

[Catbert]

pilot754: nice plagiarizing (link to original article by someone else) there buddy.

For those of you who didn't catch it, those moving words above aren't from pilot754, they're cribbed from an article on perseverence by astronaut Winston Scott.

I'm pretty sure XJET frowns a bit on that sort of thing as well. Geez, I'm starting to think this is some kind of experiment to see just how incompetent you can make yourself look.

 

[cybourg10]

Everyone faces personal and professional obstacles throughout his or her life, whether the obstacles are financial, physical, emotional, or based in gender, class, or race. Sometimes you are your own biggest obstacle, when you allow your fears and self-doubt to stand in the way of your success.

Obstacles are like mountains; they’re not going to move themselves. You have to scale the mountain or go around it, reduce it to a molehill with dynamite, or dig a tunnel straight through it. You must take action to overcome it, not sit at the foot of the mountain passively hoping it will suddenly vanish so you can get on your way.

Obstacles are more than just giant problems; problems “occur” whereas obstacles are “there.” Obstacles may have always been there, or they may crop up. A problem is more finite than an obstacle. Rarely does a problem last forever. You seek to solve problems to achieve the best possible outcome, but, even if you take no action, a problem will reach some resolution eventually, though it may not be the outcome you’d like. But an obstacle won’t change itself or go away unless you do something about it.

No one has a magical formula to deal with obstacles (no dynamite except in metaphors), but you can adopt and implement some good practices when you’re faced with obstacles that can help to reduce a daunting mountain into stepping stones to success:

Believe in yourself. The great Norman Vincent Peale said it best: “Formulate and stamp indelibly on your mind a mental picture of yourself as succeeding. Hold this picture tenaciously. Never permit it to fade. Your mind will seek to develop the picture...Do not build up obstacles in your imagination.” The first step to conquering obstacles is to realize that the answer lies within you. Maturity and experience will give you the confidence that you can overcome any impediment. In the same way, when you and your team encounter an obstacle, you must lead the team to believe in its ability to overcome it.

Seek help. Ask for guidance and support from a mentor, team, classmate, or teacher. You don’t have to overcome any obstacle solo. If a key executive leaves your organization at a crucial time, even if the loss is devastating, you should realize you have many resources to help overcome that obstacle, within and outside the organization. If you are a member or leader of a team, seek the help of appropriate experts on that team, or bring together everyone you can think of -- people in your organization, among your colleagues, throughout your sphere of influence -- and form a sort of task force to overcome the obstacle together.

Setback? Or catastrophe? When you encounter an obstacle, seek perspective and stability. How big is the obstacle, really? When you calmly and thoroughly examine the problem, you may find you are imagining the obstacle is larger than it actually is. It may only seem immovable. For example, if an important, long-term customer is dissatisfied with your organization and making noises that they might defect to the competition, you may have a lot of work to do to keep them, but it’s not a catastrophe unless you do nothing.

I'll become an airliner or corporate pilot soon and see some or all on the line! For those who doubt me so be it. Will not allow adversity to strike me down. Would even bet that after all I had to go through to get to my point today be better off in IOE/Initial training the some of the others before and during me.

Very touching, but for the safety of all future passengers I would hope that you don't become, as you put it, an airliner pilot and see some or all on the line!

 

[nwa_contrails]

pilot754: nice plagiarizing (link to original article by someone else) there buddy.

For those of you who didn't catch it, those moving words above aren't from pilot754, they're cribbed from an article on perseverence by astronaut Winston Scott.

YGBSM....if you're trying to defend yourself here, pilot, you're doing an absolutely horrible job.

Plagiarizing says alot about someones character. You're just digging yourself in deeper and deeper here dude...

 

[xcr600]

Wow pink slipping a ride early in your training is one thing but failing the last three, you sir are screwed!

And dont blame your instuctor for your inability to pass a ride.

but..but..but..I went out of town paid certain amount of money and expected to get trained and pass FAA Check Ride.

 

[pilot754]

Cybourg10

Hope you read your private inbox. As I have sent you something. All your hasty remarks and honest though not such nice things are taken to heart. But, will not stop me in my quest and endevor to get hired. It will be soon and I'll have the opportunity to secure an interview date shortly. Then it will off to training and the IOE and stuff. As previously stated I'll do better then a lot of others have. What I went though was bad and I have come out strong! As one person put it hope I don't well I will!

 

[LJDRVR]

If this is satire, my congratulations, pretty funny stuff. If you're for real and want to work at XJT, you've really shot yourself in the foot. Even if you were a qualified candidate, (You're not) posting hiring/interview material on a widely read public message board with your name and qualifications attached? Forget it. They're probably already laughing at you over at the training center.

No amount of perseverance can overcome that much stupidity.

 

[mckpickle]

I just certainly hope this thread wasn't made up by someone to slander this Mark guy. It would be pretty easy for any old Joe-Shmow to write all this and then sign this guys name.

 

[cybourg10]

Hope you read your private inbox. As I have sent you something. All your hasty remarks and honest though not such nice things are taken to heart. But, will not stop me in my quest and endevor to get hired. It will be soon and I'll have the opportunity to secure an interview date shortly. Then it will off to training and the IOE and stuff. As previously stated I'll do better then a lot of others have. What I went though was bad and I have come out strong! As one person put it hope I don't well I will!

If you are taking posts on this forum to heart, you have bigger problems (meow)........As far as my "hasty remarks", everyone on here has been consistent in saying that you probably won't get the job. After multiple failed checkrides and your inablity to write something that even resembles a coherent sentence, I would have to agree that flying for an airline may not be the best route for you. But then again mabye you will get hired and to quote you, "it will be off to training and the IOE and stuff."

 

[Lav Service]

Maybe you applied to the wrong airline. I think you'd fit right in with the rest of the no tallent ass clowns at GOOOJet. With flying skills like that, you'll probably be management! (Interview hint: Play the theme to TopGun on a boombox when you walk into the interview.)

 

[nwa_contrails]

I'll have the opportunity to secure an interview date shortly. Then it will off to training and the IOE and stuff.

Well, keep us posted, and stuff...

 

[dardar]

I'm really begining to think that this is a joke. Why else would "Mark" start his own thread on this. Wait..... that was logical thinking. It could be a joke or serious. Not sure.

As for the failing multiple checkrides, I imagine it is an accurate indicator of who will wash out and who won't. However, In my class, there were guys that failed multiple checkrides (more than "Mark") who got through just fine and one guy that had never failed a checkride who washed out.

So Mark, if you are for real, there is still some possibility of you getting through "IOE and stuff" just fine.

 

[PositionandHold]

XJT - Interview (Info)

The following are two most important lessons I learned about my aviation training! I went out of town paid certain amount of money and expected to get trained and pass FAA Check Ride. They had onsite examiners working for them

Commercial AMEL- Add on (Jan. 2003) was due to lateness of gear retraction on last take off before going in for parking.

Certified Flight Instructor: (Jan. 2003) certain things took place that I feel were unfair and against the FAA-Plan of Action. I retested few times at this flight school with two separate examiners and was unsuccessful. Thus, I left and came home to LA where I retook and passed. I am by far not stating I was not prepared for at least one of the exams. However, the majority of what occurred was inappropriate. I am unable to describe this with out a formal letter to you at this time. Think it requires both a full written letter and oral discussion which I’ll be more then happy to explain. What I have learned over the past two-half years is it made me a much better instructor and pilot for the long run! In conclusion this flight school has been able to escape MULTIPLE Attempts by the Las Vegas, NV FSDO. I was made aware of it after my departure.

So first you told them about how you paid money to go to a place where you would be pretty much guaranteed a pass on your rides because of their "onsite examiners" ...and then told them about how you failed all of them?

Good idea.

 

[ApocketA's_145]

wow!! i dont even know what to say to that! i would def remove that as soon as possible!

 

[mckpickle]

wow!! i dont even know what to say to that! i would def remove that as soon as possible!

ICE CREAM, I didn't get no f*$#ing Ice Cream!

 

[aussiefly]

lol i want what that guys smoking. "posting this on a public board is classic, whats the bet its allready pinned to the notice board at the training center lol.