Polar Air Cargo to be Sold!!!!!

[furloughfodder]

This is pretty much what we are hearing. The company wants the merger, The Polar MEC is ready to move forward (they have certified our list), now we are all just waiting for the Atlas MEC. We are hearing they do not want to move forward and are stalling the whole process and ALPA National and the Company are not happy about it. I guess Atlas still has not even certified their list, which is one of the first steps in the PID process.

Pretty amazing that we set our PID date within days of the USAirways/AMW merger PID and they are way ahead of us.

 

[Peanut gallery]

Merged functions

I have heard that both certificates have merged a bunch of functions in the office already and that the New York FSDO says they need to merge completely in a timely fashion or separate those functions.

Just my .02

 

[Whale Rider]

Crystal Ball is cloudy and its going to be cloudy for a long time. "Hang on Dr. Jones We going for a ride!" (-Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.)uke:

 

[Classicdriver]

This is pretty much what we are hearing. The company wants the merger, The Polar MEC is ready to move forward (they have certified our list), now we are all just waiting for the Atlas MEC. We are hearing they do not want to move forward and are stalling the whole process and ALPA National and the Company are not happy about it. I guess Atlas still has not even certified their list, which is one of the first steps in the PID process.

Pretty amazing that we set our PID date within days of the USAirways/AMW merger PID and they are way ahead of us.

Sorry, you have bad info (AGAIN). Check the facts. ALPA National is the latest one to request a 60 day delay so as to not waste money on a merger that may not happen. National wants answers to the for sale question

 

[Whale Rider]

The crystal ball is clearing up, oh psyc! The glass is just dirty, where is that windex??? Hmmm....

 

[PHXFLYR]

This is pretty much what we are hearing. The company wants the merger, The Polar MEC is ready to move forward (they have certified our list), now we are all just waiting for the Atlas MEC. We are hearing they do not want to move forward and are stalling the whole process and ALPA National and the Company are not happy about it. I guess Atlas still has not even certified their list, which is one of the first steps in the PID process.

Pretty amazing that we set our PID date within days of the USAirways/AMW merger PID and they are way ahead of us.

WE ARE ???!!!???


PHXFLYR

 

[furloughfodder]

Well, from what I understand, you guys have certified your seniority lists, and picked an arbitrator...which is a big process since you started with 17 potential arbitrators and have narrowed down to the final one already.

Polar has certified their seniority list, but I am not sure if Atlas has even done that yet...maybe an Atlas guy can clarify. As far as the arbitrator goes, neither side has even started to think about this since the Atlas MEC won't meet with the company or the Polar MEC since they are convinced Polar is being sold.

By the way, how is that sale going guys? It has been a few months now since the first few Atlas guys started cheering "Polar is sold!! Polar is Sold!!"...and here we all still are, one big happy AWWH family!

 

[Classicdriver]

I've only received two certified letters this year. One from the Polar SBC and one from Alpa National saying forget the first one. Nothing from Atlas MEC dealing with Seniority "lists"? Remember, we have two. Don't ask. I don't know why we have two.....we just do.

 

[furloughfodder]

It is all part of the ALPA merger and fragmentaion policy manual. Both groups first need to certify that their individual seniortiy lists are correct before moving forward and trying to merge them. It is the first step. All the Polar pilots have recieved these letters and sent them back certified as of the 6th of March. The Atlas MEC should be sending these out soon.

The next step in the process is to pick an arbitrator. That is supposed to begin soon also...

 

[cfire]

If I remember correctly, ALPA national put a 60 day hold on the process due to rumors that Polar is getting sold. Something about not wanting to spend the money on a merger that doesn't happen if Polar gets sold.

Getting an arbitor is probably a good idea. I think we all know the relationship between us was pretty much sabotaged a number of years back with many-many different acts to reinforce our distrust afterwards.

I'm curious, just what incentive does the Atlas side have to merge with the Polar group? Since Polar is pushing for it, it makes me very suspicious judging on actions of the past. Makes me think it would favor only Polar since you are all-of-a sudden interested in merging.

Personally, I would prefer Polar getting sold and becoming someone elses problem. With that done, we can turn our attention to AACS which was used in the same way Polar was against Atlas and accommodate our paying ACMI customers requesting more aircraft.