PNCL MEC Chairman resigns..

[Carl_Spackler]

Just got an email from Wake saying that he is resigning his position as the MEC chairman. Any ideas what's going on? Rumors?

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Good news actually

 

[PCL_128]

What's going on? Nothing, really. He's just worn out after years and years of this. I believe he's the second longest-serving MEC Chairman in ALPA right now. That job is a major drain on anyone. With the company unwilling to reach a TA in the foreseeable future, I can definitely understand his desire to hang it up.

 

[Papps]

Maybe he's tired of a.hole management, and even more tired of a.hole pilots that don't know to stay unified with the MEC durring negotions. Too bad, he worked his arse off on this contract. Thanks Wake

 

[JoeMerchant]

Probably a little tired of a union that is a joke..... Brand scope didn't work out in the RedTail family....

 

[WildBlue]

Probably a little tired of a union that is a joke..... Brand scope didn't work out in the RedTail family....

Joe, I have been reading your junk for awhile. You are really fixated on this brand scope stuff. You really need to get some therapy if you think this guy ever bought into that brand scope garbage.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Joe, I have been reading your junk for awhile. You are really fixated on this brand scope stuff. You really need to get some therapy if you think this guy ever bought into that brand scope garbage.

I'm not fixated on it..... ALPA is.... If it is "garbage", then maybe we need to question our union.... it s they who are selling this "garbage"....

 

[CopilotDoug]

What's going on? Nothing, really. He's just worn out after years and years of this. I believe he's the second longest-serving MEC Chairman in ALPA right now. That job is a major drain on anyone. With the company unwilling to reach a TA in the foreseeable future, I can definitely understand his desire to hang it up.

He's going back to flying for Pinnacle, right? He's not retiring for good, right?

 

[Speedtape]

He's going back to flying for Pinnacle, right? He's not retiring for good, right?

He may be your next Director of Operations.

 

[WildBlue]

He may be your next Director of Operations.

Now THAT is hilarious!

 

[WildBlue]

I'm not fixated on it..... ALPA is.... If it is "garbage", then maybe we need to question our union.... it s they who are selling this "garbage"....

The point is, Joe, that you are speculating about a guy you couldn't pick out of a line-up. You have no idea who he is, what he believes or anything else about the guy. Then you say he "probably" did this or that and throw out the "branded scope" deal. Man, you need to get another issue. How about domestic cabotage or getting a release from the NMB.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Probably a little tired of a union that is a joke..... Brand scope didn't work out in the RedTail family....

grow up Joe... the World doesn't exist for your version of reality....

There are 60,000 pilots at ALPA that want the organiztion to function 60,000 different ways... Just cause it isn't going your way why do you got to pee in everyone elses Wheaties.....??

Yeah ALPA has problems... but it be allot easier if you weren't tainting the well....

 

[PCL_128]

He's going back to flying for Pinnacle, right? He's not retiring for good, right?

He'll still be flying for us. He was a check-airman years ago, so I wouldn't be surprised if he applied for that again since we still have openings.

 

[CopilotDoug]

He'll still be flying for us. He was a check-airman years ago, so I wouldn't be surprised if he applied for that again since we still have openings.

Good.

 

[WildBlue]

I talked to someone today who said he might be going to Airtran.

 

[TAWS]

He's in the April 9th Shuttle America class.

 

[Speedtape]

I talked to someone today who said he might be going to Airtran.

FEDEX

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Don't be surpriced if you see him in a management position

 

[John Pennekamp]

What's going on? Nothing, really. He's just worn out after years and years of this. I believe he's the second longest-serving MEC Chairman in ALPA right now. That job is a major drain on anyone. With the company unwilling to reach a TA in the foreseeable future, I can definitely understand his desire to hang it up.

I know you're an MEC member, PCL, give us the truth. Did he resign or was he forced out?

 

[Casper]

He is nothing but a puppet. And not a very good one I may add.

 

[PCL_128]

I know you're an MEC member, PCL, give us the truth. Did he resign or was he forced out?

He truthfully resigned. We just held MEC Officer elections about a month ago and he was reelected. I think he was probably expecting us to finish up with a TA this month and just wanted to see that through. After the company turned down our very fair offer last week, I think he realized it was going to be a little while longer and didn't want to serve out another entire two-year term. His likely successor is a great guy, a dedicated trade-unionist, and very experienced in ALPA work. Wake will also assist during the transition to whoever is elected, so things should go very smoothly.

 

[John Pennekamp]

He truthfully resigned. We just held MEC Officer elections about a month ago and he was reelected. I think he was probably expecting us to finish up with a TA this month and just wanted to see that through. After the company turned down our very fair offer last week, I think he realized it was going to be a little while longer and didn't want to serve out another entire two-year term. His likely successor is a great guy, a dedicated trade-unionist, and very experienced in ALPA work. Wake will also assist during the transition to whoever is elected, so things should go very smoothly.

I take your words at face value, but it doesn't make much sense that he would choose to run again, then "suddenly" change his mind and quit when the company shot down your offer. That sounds like a political resignation, designed to make a point. Why wouldn't he hang on for a few more months and see it through? Certainly it won't take a whole two year term. Maybe he disagreed with the status reps position on that offer. Whatever, good luck to you guys.

 

[PCL_128]

Certainly it won't take a whole two year term.

Actually, it very well could be another two years. Management's response to our offer was not very encouraging. We're preparing for the long-haul now.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Actually, it very well could be another two years. Management's response to our offer was not very encouraging. We're preparing for the long-haul now.

Nice. Your MEC should get with our MEC. So much for "Takin' it Back".

 

[PCL_128]

Nice. Your MEC should get with our MEC. So much for "Takin' it Back".

I think you've been listening to John B. too much lately. You can't "take it back" when the NMB refuses to follow the intent of the law. Sometimes you just have to be patient.

 

[CopilotDoug]

Nice. Your MEC should get with our MEC. So much for "Takin' it Back".

Ain't that the sad truth? With Comair, the excuse was Bankruptcy. But with Pinnacle, the pilots really do owe it to themselves to be patient. I am going to go out back right now and beat my tree with a stick.

 

[DoinTime]

He is nothing but a puppet. And not a very good one I may add.

Who's puppet was he?

 

[Casper]

DoinTime,
I thought he was ours but I don't recall him diong much for us.

 

[John Pennekamp]

I think you've been listening to John B. too much lately. You can't "take it back" when the NMB refuses to follow the intent of the law. Sometimes you just have to be patient.

Why are they witing for the NMB? According to Mr Prater "Takin' it Back" refers to fighting for what management took from us over the last 7 years.

The NMB's response was predictable and predicted by most. They are 100% political. If ALPA was hoping the NMB would rule in their favor because of past precedents set under different political climates, than that's a strategy worthy of malpractice.

Patience got us 4.5 years. I personally am out of patience. Many of our pilots agree. Someone needs to take action.

 

[DoinTime]

DoinTime,
I thought he was ours but I don't recall him diong much for us.

He probably never came over to your house and took out your trash but that really isn't in the job description. What was it that you thought he was capable of doing but failed at?