Pinnacle's new fatigue policy

[PCL_128]

If you have one, you should definitely ASAP your fatigue calls too.

Not at Pinnacle. The ERC has said that they won't accept ASAP reports for fatigue calls.

 

[PCL_128]

Bring the union rep, the POI and your own lawyer...they will cave at the meeting...it is really sweet.

You don't need all of this. Just bring a good union rep and it will be a non-event. Don't let them intimidate you.

 

[GRAAB HIRBOUBI]

Fatique

It's funny that not too long ago a mesa jet over flew there destination because the pilots fell asleep. It was really bad considering it being over the ocean.

Didn't Pinnacle have an incident like this a few years ago? I am not pointing fingers. I know that after 3 high speeds I am ready to die and am certainly not going to say that I have never nodded off.

Seems like management is pressuring you guys. XJ has a max of 4 high speeds in a row. The bs with getting junior manned into a 5th is really unacceptable.

Hopefully, this is one of the contract items you guys are fighting for. I suspect this is not so subtle retaliation for the arbitration ruling and you probably should expect more.

 

[XJohXJ]

XJ has a max of 4 high speeds in a row.

Unfortunately, for many pilots I know, including myself, 4 is already too many.

 

[GRAAB HIRBOUBI]

4 Highspeeds were way too any for me, especially in the SAAB. 2 Legs out / 2 back.

By the third one in a row, the blow up doll pilot in "Airplane" probably would do a better job than me.

 

[Grimper]

This is a preventive intimidation attempt. They screwed up the schedules so badly for April they know there are going to be problems. It holds no water but one of the MSP base managers will probably force us to prove that and while the grievance is going on the example pilot will get a paid vacation.

As for the POI you all must have different POI's than us. Ours would tell the pilots if they can't handle flying on one hours rest while fighting the flue then we should find a new job. We are not cut out for airline flying.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

4 highspeeds is the limit at pinnacle as well. They would delay the 4th one to get minimum legal rest (turning it into not a highspeed) so you could do a "5th."

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

You don't need all of this. Just bring a good union rep and it will be a non-event. Don't let them intimidate you.

The question is.... are the union spots being filled as pilots move on to other carriers?

Who knows... if you volunteer at 9E the career you save might be your own!!

 

[DTWFO]

If you have one, you should definitely ASAP your fatigue calls too.

You don't want to file an ASAP for anything at Pinnacle, unless you KNOW you are going to get violated for SURE. ASAP here is just another way for management to fire you.

 

[regionaltard]

Not at Pinnacle. The ERC has said that they won't accept ASAP reports for fatigue calls.

To paraphrase Frank Zappa:

Is that a real ASAP, or a Sears ASAP? Was the pilots' union part of a consensus on that issue or are we talking about the classic "two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner" scenario?

 

[Melfly]

Where is the FAA, for god sakes. I sometimes wonder if some POI's get paid under the table.