Pinnacle vs. CHQ

[Vandal]

Got the opportunity to get (my resume) walked into either of these carriers...wondering if anyone has a short list of pros/cons of either?

And no this isn't flamebait, just looking if there is anything glaring that would preclude me going to one or the other.

And no, not now but in 6 months when I have the time...

 

[training]

Dude, are you serious?

 

[Vandal]

Whats funny about asking the difference between two regionals? Go watch training day again, dork.

 

[LegacyIIDriver]

Flip a coin, dude.

I would think Pee-knuckle would have a faster upgrade or at least the potential thereof...

 

[Propsync]

Whats funny about asking the difference between two regionals? Go watch training day again, dork.

WHEN you have enough time. IF you actually get an interview at BOTH places. AND they both offer you the job, ask us all again, dork.

 

[training]

Whats funny about asking the difference between two regionals? Go watch training day again, dork.

Dont make me come over to Jacksonville to settle this.

 

[training]

Rookie!

 

[EMB170Pilot]

boy i cannot wait till the day comes where I have to fly with a 500 hour newbie FO

God Help you Captains out there

 

[aewanabe]

boy i cannot wait till the day comes where I have to fly with a 500 hour newbie FO

God Help you Captains out there

Uh, did you read his profile? I'd take a guy with 500 hours military training over the 1000-hour DCA wonder who told me he was ready to upgrade after 3 months, since he had the airline world all figured out. Then he tried to make the "FA be seated" PA while we crossed an active...

Come to CHQ. I think the upgrades at Pinnacle are about to come to a screeching halt (not that there's any guarantees about them here) and our FO pay is better. Plus, you're provided with pay, hotel, and non-rev privileges during new-hire training. (Company provides SA passes to go home during the break between systems and the sim). BTW thanks for what you're doing for the country. We'd be glad to have you.

 

[Stepclimb]

Newbie FO "comment"

If your info is correct, your still at Little Rock with 500 hours under your belt. Having graduated AF pilot training and surviving another 5 months of AETC at "Task Force Rock" I imagine you would make a fine regional FO.
That being said, I don't imagine many airlines are interviewing 500 hour pilots. If you do get an interview and then a job offer, I would take the first one that offers you a class date.
If that doesn't happen, It seems to me that a brand new MC would want to fly as much as his/her unit would allow for at least the first year. Do this to become proficient with the airplane/mission and get to know the folks in your squadron. Anyway, the money is good even after the active duty orders end and besides; the flying is interesting most of the time.
But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong....
-Stepclimb

 

[EMB170Pilot]

Uh, did you read his profile? I'd take a guy with 500 hours military training over the 1000-hour DCA wonder who told me he was ready to upgrade after 3 months, since he had the airline world all figured out. Then he tried to make the "FA be seated" PA while we crossed an active...

Come to CHQ. I think the upgrades at Pinnacle are about to come to a screeching halt (not that there's any guarantees about them here) and our FO pay is better. Plus, you're provided with pay, hotel, and non-rev privileges during new-hire training. (Company provides SA passes to go home during the break between systems and the sim). BTW thanks for what you're doing for the country. We'd be glad to have you.

Well...never met a 500 hour military guy/gal so I can't make an opinion about that. About your 500 hour DCA..well thats just a no-brainer

 

[training]

boy i cannot wait till the day comes where I have to fly with a 500 hour newbie FO

God Help you Captains out there

I may only have 500 hours, but I have paid for and experienced the best training possible. Thats why we are hired as FO's with 500hrs. I am absolutely confident in my ablilities and I would upgrade to captain at 1500 hrs (the legal minimum time) if i could.

 

[91100 100 set]

(Company provides SA passes to go home during the break between systems and the sim). .

This DID NOT happen for my class. Our break between indoc and systems occured over the July 4th holiday. We were given a brief chat from the union jumpseat person, brand new ID badges, and were told to be in Houston or St. Louis on the 5th.

 

[Flybet3]

If you had the opportunity to choose, I would take CHQ over pinch-nickle in a heart beat. If you get the offer at pinch-nickle first go to training but if you get a call from CHQ during training go to CHQ...upgrades at PINCL are getting ready to stop perm! they are only getting a few more jets, no pay during training, ground school is disorganized and sux, no pay during training and the worst pay...you would make more money flying a freight caravan.

 

[Mtnjam]

Picky

I looked for a flying job for a long time. It's hard to get out of the instructor rut.You're lucky you have the military flight training, however I don't think Regionals would touch you until you get more T.T. I would apply with Both, Interview with both and go to the one that works best to suit your needs. Either way you go, you will have a good career. In my New hire training at Pinnacle we had a CHTQ ERJ Capt. who lived in Minneapolis and was tired of commuting, so he came to Pinnacle. Now he lives in MSP and doesn't have to commute to work anymore, not only that, but he was fortunate enough to upgrade to Captain right off the bat, however he will sit reserve for awhile, but who cares really, at least he's at home. Each Regional offers different things. Go with the one who for 1. will hire you. 2. will work best for you. You can't look at it like both airlines will hire you, because that's not always the case. One day they hire guys and gals with brown hair, the next day they hire guys with blonde hair.
Yes things at pinnacle will slow down. Upgrades are rumored to halt soon and I'm sure the hiring will cease by the end of this year unless we expand more which we may or may not?? Who knows?? rumors,rumors,rumors.
Opinion being stated here, I think it's wrong that a regional will not hire a guy like you with your flight time and experience, but they'll hire these Gulfstream guys who come in thinking they are Gods gift to the industry. Anyone can go to Gulstream if they got the $$$, however only a few special people are selected to be military pilots and make it through training. That being said, try applying with the regionals. Never hurts. All they can say is "NO" talk to us in 6 months. Good luck

 

[Simon Says]

I may only have 500 hours, but I have paid for and experienced the best training possible. Thats why we are hired as FO's with 500hrs. I am absolutely confident in my ablilities and I would upgrade to captain at 1500 hrs (the legal minimum time) if i could.

You are a piece of work. You paid for and experienced the best training possible. Could that be Gulfstream? Now you work for Pinnacle. And then you have the Ballz to rip on a military guy with the same amount of time.

I can garantee you that a military trained pilot has had better training than Gulfstream Academy student.

Let me guess, you are about 22 years old, wear your aviator glasses, and shop at the grocery store with your uniform on.

Get a life.

 

[Simon Says]

Got the opportunity to get (my resume) walked into either of these carriers...wondering if anyone has a short list of pros/cons of either?

And no this isn't flamebait, just looking if there is anything glaring that would preclude me going to one or the other.

And no, not now but in 6 months when I have the time...

Go to CHQ, because 9E is about to slow way down on their upgrades.

 

[pianoman]

Ever notice it's always the guys who just made it in that rip on the newbies the most?

 

[mooser]

My airline can beat up your airline!!!!

Mooser

 

[training]

You are a piece of work. You paid for and experienced the best training possible. Could that be Gulfstream? Now you work for Pinnacle. And then you have the Ballz to rip on a military guy with the same amount of time.

I can garantee you that a military trained pilot has had better training than Gulfstream Academy student.

Let me guess, you are about 22 years old, wear your aviator glasses, and shop at the grocery store with your uniform on.

Get a life.

Jealousy will get you nowhere, Simon. You would be so lucky to work where I work. At least we arent going to sell out on our new contract. After we get our new contract, we will be the highest paid regional jet pilots in the world. Can you say that at mesaba? Didn't think so. And before you start ripping on various PFT programs, I suggest you do a little research. I doubt you could even make it through the intense program that I paid for. Thats why I am a Regional Jet FO at 500hrs.

 

[Flyingdude]

Quote:
Originally Posted by training
I may only have 500 hours, but I have paid for and experienced the best training possible. Thats why we are hired as FO's with 500hrs. I am absolutely confident in my ablilities and I would upgrade to captain at 1500 hrs (the legal minimum time) if i could.


Training you are clueless. I am sure that the school you went to was a fine institution and you learned alot. However, you and many others still confuse well trained pilots with experienced pilots. You may have learned more about moderate and severe ice, embedded thunderstorms, etc. than others, yet if you have not actually experienced these things in person(and I don't mean with a high time captain next to you) then all you have is book knowledge. I also understood everything that the books told me about these things, or so I thought. The ultimate wake up call is suddenly finding yourself in these situations and figuring out that all you know to keep yourself alive is what you read in a book. The first time I was in this situation it humbled me and continues to. Try some humble pie and understand that just because you had good training and know the books well the real world is totally diff.

 

[training]

Training you are clueless. I am sure that the school you went to was a fine institution and you learned alot. However, you and many others still confuse well trained pilots with experienced pilots. You may have learned more about moderate and severe ice, embedded thunderstorms, etc. than others, yet if you have not actually experienced these things in person(and I don't mean with a high time captain next to you) then all you have is book knowledge. I also understood everything that the books told me about these things, or so I thought. The ultimate wake up call is suddenly finding yourself in these situations and figuring out that all you know to keep yourself alive is what you read in a book. The first time I was in this situation it humbled me and continues to. Try some humble pie and understand that just because you had good training and know the books well the real world is totally diff.

Believe me, I've seen all that stuff. If the airline says i'm ready, then thats good enough for me.

 

[Flyingdude]

Jealousy will get you nowhere, Simon. You would be so lucky to work where I work. At least we arent going to sell out on our new contract. After we get our new contract, we will be the highest paid regional jet pilots in the world. Can you say that at mesaba? Didn't think so. And before you start ripping on various PFT programs, I suggest you do a little research. I doubt you could even make it through the intense program that I paid for. Thats why I am a Regional Jet FO at 500hrs.

Training

I would not brag too much about being a wonder boy because you are a airline pilot at 500 hrs. I too am a regional FO and it is the easiest flying I have ever done in my life. I have flown in almost every division of commercial aviation and all of them have been MUCH more difficult.

 

[training]

I would not brag too much about being a wonder boy because you are a airline pilot at 500 hrs. I too am a regional FO and it is the easiest flying I have ever done in my life. I have flown in almost every division of commercial aviation and all of them have been MUCH more difficult.

Believe me, I know. I flew the Beech around forever.

 

[Flyingdude]

Believe me, I've seen all that stuff. If the airline says i'm ready, then thats good enough for me.

At 500 hrs. you have not seen all that stuff. And if you think seeing that stuff in a CRJ counts you are wrong. Airliners are aiplanes that can easily deal with issues like icing. Try it by yourself in a plane that makes you work.

 

[Flyingdude]

Believe me, I know. I flew the Beech around forever.

FOREVER? Are you kidding me? You have 500 hrs and you claim that you flew the beech forever. I have now heard everything. Man, reality is nothing but a mirage to you.

 

[training]

FOREVER? Are you kidding me? You have 500 hrs and you claim that you flew the beech forever. I have now heard everything. Man, reality is nothing but a mirage to you.

Jealousy will get you nowhere, FlyingDUDU.

 

[Fallingbrick]

Training is sitting at his/her computer right now laughing his/her a$$ off. Dude, these posts are total flame bait so relax. Hey Training, I’ll be your FO anytime man!

 

[training]

Jealousy will get you nowhere, FlyingDUDU.

Sorry, I meant FlyingDude.

 

[Flyingdude]

Training

I have been a CFI and flown freight in 402's, air ambulance in king air's, corporate and finally the airlines. The airlines is the first time I have NOT flown single pilot with the exception of about 10 hrs in a Lear. You have almost no time in airplanes by your self making choices.