Pinnacle March 15 class

[B52GUNNER]

Anyone out there in the March 15th class? I got the call last night. Just curious if anyone else out there was in the same boat as me. No longer swimming!!!!!!

 

[NoName]

so it looks like the pinnacle/gulfstream program is still alive

 

[Midwest]

wtf.....

How does one go about getting b52 experience within the first 700 hours TT? Maybe it's because I know s*** about the military and it is possible, but I'm just curious. Either way, congrats on the class date!

 

[NoName]

he was a b52 gunner, not a pilot, i guess this from his screenname. he then paid the big bucks to go to gia to be a passenger in row 0B and now b/c of some partnership with pinacle, he has a class date at a woppin 700 hours of "quality" time...yeah congrats

 

[blade230]

you are a real class act noname.......

No doubt you are a real pleasure to fly with.

 

[Otto Coarsen]

Speaking of Class Acts

Do you think he's a "TAIL gunner"???



hehehe....

 

[bigbob]

Hey B52

where does a gunner seat in a G model ?

 

[B52GUNNER]

Yees I was a gunner not an Officer pilot. I was a private pilot though. You spend a lot of time in B-52's. I have over 1000 hours in the BUFF. Normal missions were 10+ hours. I got plenty of stick time when pilots "cleared off for relief". I had an IP for an aircraft commander so I got to fly quite a bit. Also got several hours in the WST full motion sim. If you know the right people you can get time in the sims.

No more Gunners on Buffs. They got after the first gulf war. I used to sit behind the pilot facing backwards.

 

[kswhite]

B52, how long after you interviewed were you called for the class date? What's the "normal" wait time from what you've heard?

 

[tach32]

Does anyone else have an interview scheduled for 2/26?

 

[JJJ]

There was a vacancy posted today for 24 capts and 62 FO's effictive July 1. Those classes would probably start the end of May or beginning of June.

 

[B52GUNNER]

2 1/2 weeks after interview I got the call saying I was in the pool.

It took 3 months to actually get the class date.

 

[NoName]

3 months?!!! man, thats almost as long as it took to get all your ratings...0 to hero in $20000 and 10 months! woo

 

[B52GUNNER]

I should not respond but...

I have had my ratings over 15 years, and have worked in the Airline Industry for over 13 years. I have loaded bags, sold tickets, turned wrenches, and sold parts. I spent time as a crewmember in the military. Yes I did go to Gulfstream, but it was on the advice of quite a few airline captains I know.

It is not your resume that is making you not get hired. It is your attitude.

 

[NoName]

well, since you got adivce from capts you know, you are forgiven. ......the fact that you have spent so much time in the industry almost makes you worse then those that are truly neive and dont know anything but glossy flying magazine ads, but with you in the biz so long....well you know the rest...

my friends arent getting hired b/c of their wallets, not their attitudes.

 

[CatfishVT9]

"Buff Gunner",

Man that NoName guy must have some fatal attraction to you. He even talks bad about you on other threads. I pity him.

Hey seriously though, I told Stephanie that I needed to be in the April class since 15 March is too quick for me. I'll see you there.

I did forget to ask her though, do you or any other Pinnacle guys know when the flight benefits start? It's a long drive home on weekends (I'm assuming those are days off?).

Thanks,
Catfish

 

[Sppedmode]

Jumpseat

I'm sorry to say that until you pass your checkride and receive your ID badge, you can not jumpseat. I believe that after our next contract 5/05, new hires will be paid, furnished a hotel and receive an ID when you start class.

 

[CatfishVT9]

Ouch!!!

Speedmode,
Thanks for the info. That's a tougher one to swallow than no pay during training to me. I live in central Florida, so driving home on days off would be impossible. Ugh......

Catfish

 

[dondk]

I did forget to ask her though, do you or any other Pinnacle guys know when the flight benefits start? It's a long drive home on weekends (I'm assuming those are days off?).

Thanks,
Catfish

The way they have been running lately... you could probably count on one maybe two weekend (days) being busy. The hint will be whether they start you on any other day then monday....

When I went through (2 1/2 years ago), a friend of the pilots in HR would work out a pass for a weekend trip home. Then again, training back then was a good 12 weeks or better. They have it down to just about 8 weeks and the senior classmates can be less.

Supposedly classes are about 20 every 3 weeks, vacancies are showing about 50-60 every month and that has been since the Feb Vacancy and we just announced July's a few days ago.

Do the math and those who may want to "wait" for a class or two will be taking a significant hit on seniority...

 

[Rook]

Hey Gunner,

Don't sweat the hype man. We've been hiring the GIA guys for a while now and once they reach the line they've been known to be a pretty good group. Just do me this one favor. Once you reach the line...CHANGE YOUR GIA CREW TAGS TO NWA AIRLINK CREW. Sure it's not much better but now you're an airlinker. Other than that if you have any more questions shoot me a pm. I'll try to answer as many questions as I can. Study hard and good luck.

That's my 10 cents my 2 cents is free
Nuisance who sent?
YOU SENT FOR ME!!??

Rook
600' AGL Autopilot on.
'WHEW!'

 

[Sun Devil 2000]

Training

First off let me say that I did not got through the Gulfstream program and I didnt PFT. Now as for training at Pinnacle from someone who recently completed it.

Fight the urge to go home on your days off. Use the time to catch up on reading, study your flows, callouts and profiels (FCOM2), and relax a bit. They will tell you on day one that if you try and go home and miss a class your done! They aren't kidding about this.

My class was lucky because we had a break for the holidays and it allowed us extra time to study for the sim. I honestly think that if your a low time pilot you could really get ahead by having the flows, callouts, and profiles down cold prior to CPT 1. My sim partner and I did and it made things SO MUCH EASIER.

Just my two cents... Good luck in training!

FDX

 

[hardifr]

Some questions about Pinnacle's training. What is the hourly pay, and number of hours you could expect to fly a month? Where is the training? MEM? What is the schedule like? Junior base in MSP? From a prev. post I am guessing not paid during training...? Thanks in advance!

 

[JJJ]

No pay during training. Training is in MEM. Current first year FO rate is $20.13, $20.73 in May. Line average is 86-87 hours 9 (not sure if that is flight time or pay though). New hires are going to both MSP and DTW, MEM can be had in about 3-4 months. Suppose to be growth in MEM so it might be available to new hires.

 

[hardifr]

Thanks JJJ. Now, just suppose that I were to get hired...Do they provide any $ for living expenses, or at least help you find a place to stay during training? I am guessing there are crash pads close to the airport that would be considered safe and comfortable?

While I am at it, what is the interview process like?

Cheers,

 

[another cfii]

No allowances whatsoever during training, you're on your own until you pass sim check. They "recommend" you to stay at the Homestead near the CEC, but word of warning, it's not that good. There're plenty of crashpad in Germantown or in Southaven MS, since we're training so much these days, there's always someone leaving. If you get one of our more colorful ground instructor, you won't fall asleep in class

Interview gouge can be found @ www.aviationinterviews.com. They are pretty right on. Study the Inst, Comm, probably a bit ATP, and bring your humor with you, and you're all set. Good luck!

 

[DTWFO]

well, since you got adivce from capts you know, you are forgiven. ......the fact that you have spent so much time in the industry almost makes you worse then those that are truly neive and dont know anything but glossy flying magazine ads, but with you in the biz so long....well you know the rest...

my friends arent getting hired b/c of their wallets, not their attitudes.

WAAAAHHHH, WAAAAHHH, WAAAAAA

Maybe there's another reason why you're not getting hired?? HMMM