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This guys is unreal!!! I read other posts he made and I don't know if this guy is for real, or just on here to irritate people. I do however think he is an FO at Pinnacle. If he is he sure isn't helping out his fellow Gulfstream folk "which I am proud to say I'm not one of them." Too bad.
As far as new A/C goes, funny enough I went just last week to pick up a new one just outside of Montreal at "YMX" There was only one other one of our planes almost complete and it was not an ERJ!!!! ERJ's are made in BRAZIL!!!! NOT CANADA!!!! I honestly think you're on here to just blow smoke up people's rear-end's!! Too many people have worked to hard to be irritated by you.
 
Pinnacle will continue to grow until it is the largest regional airline in the country and possibly the world. Eventually, Pinnacle will do all the domestic flying for NWA so that they can focus on international flying.
 
Hey why dont you pay Pinnacle to got to training or maybe even pay them so you can fly for them. Great idea.
 
training said:
Pinnacle will continue to grow until it is the largest regional airline in the country and possibly the world. Eventually, Pinnacle will do all the domestic flying for NWA so that they can focus on international flying.
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Yes, the memo is already out. 30 daily roundtrips between DTW-LGA and DTW-LAX on the CRJ. The Boeing 757s and the Airbus 319/320s have tooooo many open seats on those routes. Pinnacle has just excercised all the options for the remaining CRJs.

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You're a stupid dipsh*t.
 
Don't tell anyone but I passed by the Tennessee ANG base today and all three of the C5's out there were being painted in NWA colors and they all said "Operated by Pinnacle Airlines" near the door. I could see it from 1/4 mile away. They are planning to use the C5's for the new 9E flights from MEM-SYD, MEM-HKG and MEM-HNL flights.

We'll be operating these flights from our super secret dispatch office 10 stories below our current office. In the same office we have our other division that is gearing up for the EMB's coming from the secret factory in Montreal that will make us the "largest regional airline in the world!" No wait. The UNIVERSE!

No one tell anyone else about this because it's a big secret.
 
Give the student pilot a break, he's new.
 
My 11years in this buisness a Captain once told me this and I will carry it to the grave with me:

" in this buisness you start off with a hard c*ck and a soft face,by the time you retire you have a hard face and a soft c*ck"
 
training said:
I wish i was.
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But why???

Pinnacle is getting E170s !!!!

They are going to become the world's largest regional airline !!!!

They're replacing all of Northwest's domestic flying!!!!

They're about to get the best, industry leading pilot contract, making them the highest paid RJ pilots!!!!

And you wanna leave all that for XJ ? No growth there, upgrade at least 5 years, and after all, you "can't wait to upgrade."

Enough with this, PM me.
 
inflight said:
another Friday comes and goes and no big announcement from XJ. I have not heard any rumors of a big announcement from 9E.

The only thing about 9E I have heard is that you probably will not be getting all 140, I mean 139, I mean 138 CRJ's.
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Bad Taste dude.

Rook
 
yes, i wasted a bout 5 minutes clicking on a thread that had something to do with Pinnapple airlines. I am sure there are some great people pover there, i have met a few, but its the idiots who talk the loudest, and training must be one of them. You idiot, get real, those links provided by some people that quote verbatum about the NWA contract talks and rules. I mean, this is the last time i do this crap! I will wait for the real announcement......did Pinnicle suspend training because they got new airplanes cancelled? or because they reck so many planes, they cannot be trusted with more. lol just joking.
 
xjhawk,
You like to call people idiot don't you, or is that your word for the week. You called me bitter, I think you need to look in the mirror. Maybe your still upset that Kansas lost early in the NCAA tourn.
 
xjhawk said:
yes, i wasted a bout 5 minutes clicking on a thread that had something to do with Pinnapple airlines. I am sure there are some great people pover there, i have met a few, but its the idiots who talk the loudest, and training must be one of them. You idiot, get real, those links provided by some people that quote verbatum about the NWA contract talks and rules. I mean, this is the last time i do this crap! I will wait for the real announcement......did Pinnicle suspend training because they got new airplanes cancelled? or because they reck so many planes, they cannot be trusted with more. lol just joking.
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That's a pretty funny joke. Quit your day job and try out for last comic standing.

Rook
Looks like a high overcast.
Better ask for Type IV.
 
training said:
Apparently pinnacle has found a way to get around the scope clause and f over the mainline.
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PCL and XJ can buy any aircraft they want themselves, operate them on a seperate certificate, and fly them for another code with another carrier that does not have NWA scope restrictions.

Other than the Avro's that are grandfathered, there is NO loophole in our Scope that would allow this. None. Nada. Nothing.
 
Fly4hire said:
PCL and XJ can buy any aircraft they want themselves, operate them on a seperate certificate, and fly them for another code with another carrier that does not have NWA scope restrictions.

Other than the Avro's that are grandfathered, there is NO loophole in our Scope that would allow this. None. Nada. Nothing.
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I believe that PCL is talking about buying EMB-170s and flying for another carrier.
 
Even IF we got E-170's at 9E.. it will me a LONG time before they will be on the property..
No pilots (heck we can't staff the airline now)
No training department (wait.we probably could find a ramper to teach systems)
We are in Section 6 right now.. The company would have to make a sweet offer to entice some 1000 pi$$ed off pilot's to take on another fleet without a better contract (maybe taking those NWA routes of DTW-LAS would be enough with a 36 hour layover:rolleyes:)

Yes.. the company is working on another certificate, the "catch"... the people with the $$$ (to buy the a/c the company wants to use) want labor agreements in place.. F/A contract is coming due soon too and pilot's have not even gotten to the compensation section yet.

Loads out of MKE.. 96% during spring break (so was everyone else's loads in the industry).. normal loads vary on destination.. average about 50% with some being way less than 50%... I would know.. I have flown MKE runs for a few months now...
 
dondk said:
Even IF we got E-170's at 9E.. it will me a LONG time before they will be on the property..
No pilots (heck we can't staff the airline now)
No training department (wait.we probably could find a ramper to teach systems)
We are in Section 6 right now.. The company would have to make a sweet offer to entice some 1000 pi$$ed off pilot's to take on another fleet without a better contract (maybe taking those NWA routes of DTW-LAS would be enough with a 36 hour layover:rolleyes:)

Yes.. the company is working on another certificate, the "catch"... the people with the $$$ (to buy the a/c the company wants to use) want labor agreements in place.. F/A contract is coming due soon too and pilot's have not even gotten to the compensation section yet.

Loads out of MKE.. 96% during spring break (so was everyone else's loads in the industry).. normal loads vary on destination.. average about 50% with some being way less than 50%... I would know.. I have flown MKE runs for a few months now...
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Dude, Are you serious?
 
Flechas said:
He is way more entitled to discuss company business, you may want to listen and learn.
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You just don't quit, do ya fletch. Didn't you learn ANYTHING the other night?
 
8HRRULE said:
You just don't quit, do ya fletch. Didn't you learn ANYTHING the other night?
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I'm not fighting dude, I got yelled at, but I do respect dondk's opinion more than yours. It has been a pleasure discussing with you, take care.
 
Flechas said:
I'm not fighting dude, I got yelled at, but I do respect dondk's opinion more than yours. It has been a pleasure discussing with you, take care.
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You have no idea what my position is, fletch. Do you really think that a 400hr PFT'er could have pitched the whole argument that well and won with his/her vast knowledge of the dynamics of this industry?
 
8HRRULE said:
You have no idea what my position is, fletch. Do you really think that a 400hr PFT'er could have pitched the whole argument that well and won with his/her vast knowledge of the dynamics of this industry?
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Short answer NO. But That has been your only argument so far, so I would not venture to say that you won any arguments. Besides, if somebody is very good in arguments, he/she can defend either side and win, which is not the case.
I don't know if you really are a 400 hr PFT or not, I don't know how old or exoerienced you are, maybe it's all flaim bait maybe not, but everything I've said to you or in response to your posts is because you are displaying ignorance on the subject, you are showing the opinion of a brainwashed person.
 
8HRRULE said:
Dude, Are you serious?
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Unfortunately I am..

We have been "offically" informed of another certificate in the works.. ETA Aug to Dec THIS year.

Do we have another code share? not to my knowledge, but pick a weak legacy carrier and there are rumors abound.

It is well known in the company that management wants to outsource to gain more flying (read $$$). We had an obligation to NWA (50 million of them) that had to be settled before we look elsewhere, those obligations are now satisfied.

Our ASA with NWA will determine basically what, where and how we pick up other flying.

Regarding the labor agreements, I seriously doubt we will sign a TA anytime soon, the F/A's are also being pressured to get to the table on an agreement and they have not even started section 6 yet (like the company did to the pilot's almost a year ago).

With about 20 jets to go.. the position of the company weaken's, unless they find some more flying and make it worth our while (contract wise).

Out of about 1100 pilots on the property... only 700 or so will be able to vote, of the 700... 500 or so have better than 2 years in the company. We have had enough with our current contract, extensions, junior assignments, pay issues, work rules, and many other isssue's..
 
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That seperate ticket sounds about right. It worked like a charm for NWA with the Mesaba pilots and might do the trick at Pinnacle to ensure a cost neutral contract for both NWA regionals.
 

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