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Pinnacle Emergency- Job Well Done!!

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linecheck said:
Great job to the pinnacle crew: they saved the lives of 50 people. Perhaps the general public will begin to understand why they need two well paid, highly trained, professional flight crews there in case something happens.

I guess that says a lot for Pinnacle considering their past. Why are you giving kudos to the pilots for handling a routine emergency that we all train for all the time? Now if the tail split in half and the rudder fell off and they landed back at SBN then I'd be impressed.
 
Captain Overs said:
I guess that says a lot for Pinnacle considering their past. Why are you giving kudos to the pilots for handling a routine emergency that we all train for all the time? Now if the tail split in half and the rudder fell off and they landed back at SBN then I'd be impressed.




How about just saying good job? How many times has anyone here actually shut down a turbojet engine in flight b/c it was about to chew itself apart? I bet you most havent.

Spent the day with my parents and some fam friends- 2 retired red-tail whale guys and 1 retired DAL guy. Only 2 of the three had ever shut one down, and each of those had only happened once.

The moral of the story- this is the kind of stuff that pilots will probably see only once in their lives. Kudos to a great job and doing it by the book.
 
Everyone of us does it at least once a year in the sim. It's not that big a deal. The aircraft can fly on one engine. It can't fly on none.
 
At my last job we had a similar situation while on approach. Noticed a very loud vibration. This was in a small corporate jet that we flew every day, so we knew when something wasn't right. We pulled each throttle back seperately to determine which engine it was coming from. Turned out to be the #2 engine, and the vibration was getting louder by the minute. We were on approach anyway, so we elected to shut it down. There were NO cockpit indications that anything was wrong, but after being inspected by mechanics it was determined that the starter/generator was actually coming apart inside of the engine. Had we not shut it down, it could have been ugly. The vibration was the only way that we knew there was something wrong...
 
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Captain Overs said:
Everyone of us does it at least once a year in the sim. It's not that big a deal. The aircraft can fly on one engine. It can't fly on none.

You sound like an ego tripping moron. If ANY engine failure doesn't at least quicken your pulse a tad, you don't have enough respect for the hazards of this job to be competant at doing it.

You are right, transport category airplanes can indeed fly on one engine just fine... PROVIDED nothing else is wrong. Many emergencies don't follow the same script your last PC did.

I have never lost an engine in multiengine equipement (at least not yet). What few emergencies I have experienced have all required some thought/action outside of the checklist and my previous training. At least give the PCL crew credit for not making a unusual situation worse by not following training or using poor judgement. Plenty of well qualified pilots have done far worse in much less demanding circumstances.
 

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