Pilots with FSI/NJA training difficulty

[Diesel]

Lets count how many times I've been suspended= 0

How many times have you been suspended????? Hmmmmm

By the way cocktails Wed or Thursday? Wife is coming home friday.

 

[learflyer]

Well Im A New Hire And I Had No Problems, Flew Atr-72's 10 Years Ago. The Only Thing That Was New Me Was The Fms. The Most Recent Airplanes I Have Been Flying Were Corporate Turboprops With Garmin 530 And 430 Equipment. Never Had Pure Jet Time.

Im Sure Attitude Is Important And The Desire To Learn And Be The Best Stick You Can Be For Nja Is To Your Benefit. But For Me, Fsi Training Had Its Challenges. I Beleieve Every One Is Different And The Experience They Bring With Them Determines There Sucess In The Sim.

I Believe That Fsi Will Do Everything Possible To Get You Through The Training Program. Every One In Our Class Of 18 Made It Through.

Im Glad To Be A Part Of The Nja Group And From What I Was Told 3 Days Ago In Review Training, You Have 4 Tries To Get Through Fsi.

Good Luck And Have (((fun)))

Ouch, where did this habit start?

 

[DO-82 driver]

Sounds like the pool of qualified people willing to live in LAX,PBI,TEB,DAL and CMH is drying up........

 

[Guitar rocker]

I flew with Diesel when he was a FNG at NJA. If HE can do it, ANYONE can!!!

I am suprised that he can handle the speed on that X..........

 

[gunfyter]

I am suprised that he can handle the speed on that X..........

X is one level easier. No electronic checklists.... Old Fashion paper.

 

[Guitar rocker]

X is one level easier. No electronic checklists.... Old Fashion paper.

But he's just used to carb heat, an E6B and an old sectional with Sugarloaf and coffee stains! He cant do "electronic" anything!

 

[DLF8108]

OK...I hear ya...

OK,

Diesel (et al) are essentially correct,
* attitude IS a HUGE factor in training

FURTHER
* anyone with a modicum of flight aptitude can be trained...and
* FSI & NJA trainers are great folks & will work as hard as you do

BUT
think of it like Bayesian statistics,

certain characterists may not predict training difficulties, However,
folks WITH training difficulties, usually have some of those characteristics

(based on 30 yrs of experience as BOTH student and instructor)
:beer:

 

[RNObased]

As an IOE guy i've probably seen it all. But if the attitude is strong you can make your way through anything.

I have to agree Diesel on this one to a point. There is no secret formula to who is going to have issue and who isn't. In my newhire class 2 guys washed out of FSI but I don't remember the issue with them.

As a former IOE guy the biggest problem that I have seen is attitude. The famous, oh at so and so we did it like this. Or when I was flying the L-1011 we did this or that.

Also some people have absolutly no idea what NJA or any other fractional REALLY does. Oh, they may have a general idea, but until you are in TEB loading a SUV full of bags and it is snowing like hell and you are trying to get out of dodge, and you have ice water dumping into your shoes, someone stole your crew meal and scheduling just added two more legs to your day, then you can say you know what we do. Ahh, good times.

 

[Guitar Guy]

Diesel put it quite well. Attitude is everything. I also came to NJA with no jet/"glass" time, just a few thousand hours in Beech 1900's. I got through training. My sim partner was also a turboprop-only guy and we both upgraded last fall within a year of being hired. And I know a good number of pilots at NJA with no jet hours in their logs or "massive" hours of "glass" time prior to being hired here.

Attitude matters a lot, not just at NJA but also in life.

 

[stingray]

I came to NJA with little turboprop time, I got most of that when local guys asked me if I whanted to go with them. I had mostly piston time. I came from flying C402's strait to NetJets. The hardest part to learn for me was the FMS and some of the newer avioncs. If I did It anyone can.