Pilots with backpacks

[time builder]

When I was a Mormon missionary, I was mistaken for a federal agent.

-Goose

Ha ha, me too. One guy flushed his whole marijuana stash because he thought we were coming to bust him.

BTW, yes, I was a missionary too. Again, don't mean to hijack the thread talking about mormonism, just the backpacks.

 

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Once, in college, we had Mormon Missionaries stop by the lake house that was rented by our Fraternity. We held them hostage until they drank beer with us. Does this mean I'm going to hell?

Why hasn't anyone taken the screen name, Captain Moroni?

 

[Goose Egg]

Why hasn't anyone taken the screen name, Captain Moroni?

Because that would be the mormon equivalent to SJS.

Don't mean to highjack the thread, I just know that even Mormon missionaries were told by their leaders that backpacks look unprofessional (with a white shirt and tie) several years ago. It wasn't a huge sticky issue and they seem to not have enforced it. Makes sense to have a backpack over a briefcase when riding a bicyle.

Yeah, I've heard and noticed the same. I went the whole two years backpack a-wearin'. But then again, I was in the 'hood of DTW, and mobility was, shall we say, an advantage. Ahh, good times.


-Goose

 

[Goose Egg]

Ha ha, me too. One guy flushed his whole marijuana stash because he thought we were coming to bust him.

Man I have soooo many stories like that!!

-Goose

 

[time builder]

Once, in college, we had Mormon Missionaries stop by the lake house that was rented by our Fraternity. We held them hostage until they drank beer with us. Does this mean I'm going to hell?

Why hasn't anyone taken the screen name, Captain Moroni?

Why should I even bother to respond, it's obvious you're just looking to mock mormons.

This one is an easy answer however, you obviously don't know much about mormonism. In short, no, you're not going to hell according to mormon beliefs, because mormons don't believe in the traditional heaven/hell, they believe in varying degrees of glory. Ask a mormon to explain it to you, but its seriously one of my biggest pet peves when people try to define another religion in terms of their own beliefs.

BTW, that's seriously wrong, I wouldn't be bragging about taking someone's constitutional religious freedom in your own hands, even if you do feel its just harmless fun.

 

[time builder]

Yeah, I've heard and noticed the same. I went the whole two years backpack a-wearin'. But then again, I was in the 'hood of DTW, and mobility was, shall we say, an advantage. Ahh, good times.


-Goose

I was in northern New England, and it was additionally advantageous to have a backpack because of all the mud flung up at you by your back tire.

 

[bizicmo]

I hope you are kidding. If you are serious, you have major issues.

You didn't let me finish. I think UPS pilots are bringing down the industry with their backpack wearing and it makes me absolutely sick that......................... I have no idea how to make it to UPS myself to drag down the industy with a magic backpack.

 

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[time builder]

They walked in and told us they wanted to talk to us about depression. We thought we had the cure for what ale'd them.

Mormons did not really show up on my radar until they started taking my airplanes. That got my attention.

For the record - they HAD fun!

Okay, so you're bragging about how you got a couple guys to deny their faith for a night of partying. They probably got sent home if that were the case.

I assume you're talking about SkyWest "taking" Comair's planes, just for clarification on that part.

 

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BTW, that's seriously wrong, I wouldn't be bragging about taking someone's constitutional religious freedom in your own hands, even if you do feel its just harmless fun.

They walked in and told us they wanted to talk to us about "depression." We thought we had the cure for what ale'd them.

We listened to them, they listened to us. I'm not sure there was a "taking of someone's constitutional religious freedoms." They came to our house proselytizing - so what is your point? You can invade our home and tell us your views, but you can't handle listening to others? Lighten up Francis, I recommend you also have a beer. Despite what your religion says, you can. References: (1 Tim. 3:8)(Matt. 11:19)(John 2:1–11)(Luke 10:34)(1 Tim. 5:23)

I would really love to hear your thoughts on Deut. 14:25-26.

In closing, "Give strong drink to him who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress; let them drink and forget their poverty, and remember their misery no more" (Prov. 31:6–7).

 

[Midnight Flyer]

backbacks are harder to carry than rollerbags

For all you backpack toters. I can remember in junior high toting my backpack around and how heavy it seemed to feel on my shoulder on the walk home. What's the advantage of toting a backpack when you could much more easily use the rollerbag and just hook your kitbag to the rollerbag.
I personally still use my trusty classic Scott's Leather kit bag with my metal framed stealth rollerbag that I've had for years with no problems. Is it just an image thing, or do you backpack toter's really think it's easier to just carry one?
BTW, I have nothing against toting a backpack, I'm just wondering. :beer:

 

[capt. megadeth]

You didn't let me finish. I think UPS pilots are bringing down the industry with their backpack wearing and it makes me absolutely sick that......................... I have no idea how to make it to UPS myself to drag down the industy with a magic backpack.

There ya go! That's better!

 

[Goose Egg]

Despite what your religion says, you can. References: (1 Tim. 3:8)(Matt. 11:19)(John 2:1–11)(Luke 10:34)(1 Tim. 5:23)

I would really love to hear your thoughts on Deut. 14:25-26.

In closing, "Give strong drink to him who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress; let them drink and forget their poverty, and remember their misery no more" (Prov. 31:6–7).

Quote from one of our church's docu-dramas: "I believe in the Bible, [fins], but I woudn't dare take it literally."

Not that the Bible doesn't have some really good things that actually should be taken literally, but you've got to be careful. Chances are pretty slim, in my opinion, that the Proverbs scripture is actually talking about recreational drinking. To me it could be symbolic for serving your fellow man and helping them with their trials. It's all about the translation. I always sort of cringe when I hear people rattle off scriptures out of context to support this viewpoint or that (even if I happen to agree with their point), because they are taking ancient text and trying to bend it to make sense in modern language, and it just doesn't always work like that; the symbolism is far too deep (especially in the Old Testament.)

Anyway, if you feel it is important in your life to be able to consume alchohol, I respect your views and your right to govern your own life. But you must also respect ours if we choose not to. To be honest with you, I really don't think that I'm missing out on a whole lot. If you really were able to convince a couple Mormon missionaries to drink with you, rest assured that most of us are not nearly as weak-minded.

That's one Mormon's view on it anyway.

My thoughts on Duet. 14:25-26: I'd say if those two verses are the centerpiece of your argument, you've got a lot more work to do. To me it looks like you've just selected a few passages that mention "strong drink" and are using it as a justification to get hammered.

-Goose

Oh, and I think suits and backpacks definitely DO NOT go together. A backpack shouldn't be anywhere near a pilot's uniform. (And suits and bikes definitely do not mix either. The chafing was unbelievable.)

 

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Quote from one of our church's docu-dramas: "I believe in the Bible, [fins], but I woudn't dare take it literally."

Not that the Bible doesn't have some really good things that actually should be taken literally, but you've got to be careful. Chances are pretty slim, in my opinion, that the Proverbs scripture is actually talking about recreational drinking. To me it could be symbolic for serving your fellow man and helping them with their trials. It's all about the translation. I always sort of cringe when I hear people rattle off scriptures out of context to support this viewpoint or that (even if I happen to agree with their point), because they are taking ancient text and trying to bend it to make sense in modern language, and it just doesn't always work like that; the symbolism is far too deep (especially in the Old Testament.)

Anyway, if you feel it is important in your life to be able to consume alchohol, I respect your views and your right to govern your own life. But you must also respect ours if we choose not to. To be honest with you, I really don't think that I'm missing out on a whole lot. If you really were able to convince a couple Mormon missionaries to drink with you, rest assured that most of us are not nearly as weak-minded.

That's one Mormon's view on it anyway.

My thoughts on Duet. 14:25-26: I'd say if those two verses are the centerpiece of your argument, you've got a lot more work to do. To me it looks like you've just selected a few passages that mention "strong drink" and are using it as a justification to get hammered.

-Goose

Oh, and I think suits and backpacks definitely DO NOT go together. A backpack shouldn't be anywhere near a pilot's uniform. (And suits and bikes definitely do not mix either. The chafing was unbelievable.)

Goose, first of all, I'm just playing. I don't often consume alcohol these days, but I don't try to tell folks on the authority of God that it is wrong.

At the Last Supper, Jesus sat down with his best friends and co-workers and consumed (wine/strong drink - depending on translation). If you, or I, knew what he did about what was about to happen, we would probably sit down and have a drink and fellowship with our friends and family.

One reason, given by a member of SkyWest's management and repeated around the ASA G.O. and Flight Safety was SkyWest is Mormon and ASA is not. This apparently provides some justification for the strip mining operation on our property. I don't know what amount of truthfulness there is to the rumor, but clearly we are treated as "one of them."

And this is where I stop playing. SkyWest has taken action against the ASA operation which can not be justified economically. They have increased costs while diminishing the flexibility, efficiency and responsiveness of the operation just so they can harm the ASA pilot group. Since there is no logical explanation - many of us wonder - is this a religious thing? I can't say I know, but enough harm has been done that I am starting to wonder.

 

[landlover]

For all you backpack toters. I can remember in junior high toting my backpack around and how heavy it seemed to feel on my shoulder on the walk home. What's the advantage of toting a backpack when you could much more easily use the rollerbag and just hook your kitbag to the rollerbag.
I personally still use my trusty classic Scott's Leather kit bag with my metal framed stealth rollerbag that I've had for years with no problems. Is it just an image thing, or do you backpack toter's really think it's easier to just carry one?
BTW, I have nothing against toting a backpack, I'm just wondering. :beer:

its not that difficult, unless however you have not grown any man muscles since jr.high. i were a backpack but i am a freight dog and dont wear a pilots uniform even when flying.

 

[Goose Egg]

One reason, given by a member of SkyWest's management and repeated around the ASA G.O. and Flight Safety was SkyWest is Mormon and ASA is not. This apparently provides some justification for the strip mining operation on our property. I don't know what amount of truthfulness there is to the rumor, but clearly we are treated as "one of them."

And this is where I stop playing. SkyWest has taken action against the ASA operation which can not be justified economically. They have increased costs while diminishing the flexibility, efficiency and responsiveness of the operation just so they can harm the ASA pilot group. Since there is no logical explanation - many of us wonder - is this a religious thing? I can't say I know, but enough harm has been done that I am starting to wonder.

AHHHH.... [lightbulb turns on] I had totally forgotten about this. This makes so much more sense to me now. First of all, just let me say for the record that I'm really not much of a fan of SkyWest's management either. I don't want to get going on a major rant here, but to me it seems like many businesses based in UT operate in the "club" mentality, and I've found myself "on the outside" many times, even as a mormon and a UT native. I have ample opportunity to work at SkyWest if I want, (now, anyway) but really I'd rather just do other things. (This isn't necessarily a union vs. non-union argument--at this point I think I'd really rather do 135 stuff.) I really do not think that SkyWest is handling ASA very well, it's like you guys are almost treated like the proverbial "read-headed step-children," and I don't think it's right, no matter what religion is involved.

Please don't take the actions of SkyWest's management as a reflection on how Mormons are on the whole. I'd feel horribly if that were the case. I love my church, but some of its members do some pretty unseemly things. I sincerely hope that SkyWest's actions aren't influenced by religion, but even I can't be sure. I personally feel that it is my duty as a Christian to be tolerant an respectful of other people's views (even if I happen not to agree), and to serve others no matter what walk of life they may be from (they are all children of God, after all). Unfortunately, not everyone within the Church has clued-in, even after much encouragement and guidance from Church leaders.

Take care,
-Goose