Pilots..lock and load

[Patriot328]

One thing to remember (possibly)...

Pending a decision on exactly what gun to use (which will make all this moot), I personally would want a pistol that holds as many high powered rounds (which don't over penetrate) as possible. Something along the lines of a ParaOrdnance P14-15 (or the LDA version if you'd like). 15 rounds of 230gr JHP will do some damage.

I have a Glock32 (357sig) and love it. At most it holds 14 rnds (with normal capacity mags, which, as LEOs, I assume we'll be getting).

Full sized 357sig, full sized doublestacked 1911, or a Glock 20 in 10MM would do nicely...


We'll see what we get.. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 32acp, knowing the way the g'vt works. Actually, a Sig in 357sig calibre is the most likely, IMHO.



Patriot

 

[njcapt]

What's the Glock .40 cal with the long grips? I shot a 23 and 27 but this one was sweet. Shot 10 through the ten ring at 25 yards without really trying. I've got hands like waffles, short fingers with wide palms.

I don't care what kind of ammo I'm allowed to use, anything beyond cap gun ammo will do the job from the cockpit (which is the only place I'll be able to use it from). Also, if I can't do the job with a 10 round mag, I shouldn't be carrying.

 

[FracPilot]

I can't wait... a bunch of Barney Fifes running around the terminal with their guns!

This brings up another hotly debated point. How will pilots that are allowed to carry get the weapon safely to and from the airplane? There will likely be some sort of transportation to take them from the non-secure area straight to the aircraft. We can't risk having a bunch of pilots carrying guns inside the terminals where they could be overtaken and lose their guns. Any ideas?

 

[FracPilot]

What's the Glock .40 cal with the long grips?

The full size Glock .40S&W is the model 22. 15 or 17 round mags for LEO/military, 10 for civilian.

 

[Draginass]

Ceo of the sofa seems to think that a 1/2" hole in a fuselage will blow the aircraft apart. Proves you don't have to have any knowledge on the subject to have an opinion.

As far as choice of weapons go. Accuracy is a bit of a red heering. Since any lethal cockpit defense will be used at a range no farther than the cockpit door, that's probably not an issue. What is important is reliability, ease of operation in times of extreme stress, and storage.

 

[njcapt]

This brings up another hotly debated point. How will pilots that are allowed to carry get the weapon safely to and from the airplane? There will likely be some sort of transportation to take them from the non-secure area straight to the aircraft. We can't risk having a bunch of pilots carrying guns inside the terminals where they could be overtaken and lose their guns. Any ideas?

The same way everybody else gets theirs to the plane. How do the airport police, national guardsmen, Federal Air Marshals, and every other Federal Friggin' law enforcement employee get their gun to the aircraft? They maintain control over it like they are trained. So will the trained pilots guard theirs any less forcefully?

I'm more worried about what I'll do with my piece at the hotel. If I go out for dinner will I be able to store my weapon in the hotel safe? Also, can I carry when I'm commuting? What's the difference that I'm carrying on some other airline as long as I have the federal authorization? These are the real questions.

 

[Kaman]

I'd opt for the Sig-Sauer P-227 with the 3 1/2" barrel. Downside is that it has no safety, only a de-cocking lever.

 

[jdru25]

I am definately a fan of the Sig 229 in 357 Sig. The best part about that gun is that you can change the barrel to shoot the 40 Smith and Wesson. I have both barrels and I love em both.

Maybe the Gov't will let us use the good old "Black Talon"