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Would just like to know. What kind of perks, discounts pilot's get when flying.

Like when pilot's are on vacation and fly somewhere, passenger of course, at what percentage do they get tickets from regular price. Do they get to fly first class/business class with a discount? Are discounts only on their airline or other airlines also? Thanks, just thought it would be cool to know.
 
If they fly on their own company's airplane (on a space available basis) they, and their wife and kids, fly for zero cost. FREE.

A pilot also may 'jump seat' in the cockpit of many other airlines than the one they work for, provided jump seat privileges have been agreed to with reciprocity for their pilots. In short, Pilots can almaost always travel at a no cost basis on their vacation and leisure travel
 
I know of one private company that let one of their pilots use their private aircraft for personal use as a bonus occasionally. Nice to have if you can get it.
 
I may have misunderstood the original post. A private pilot will get zero consideration for a discounted ticket on an airline. My first post assumed (perhaps wrongly) that you were asking about an airline pilot's perks. Just private or commercial liscense gets you nothing on the airlines as a discount.
 
Nope, you did not misunderstand the question jarhead. I just wanted to know what perks, discounts, private pilots, or commercial pilots, etc. get.
 
Sorry, unless you work for a part 121 carrier, you need to buy a ticket by searching the internet just like everyone else. The free travel on airlines is for pilots employed there, and their families.
 
I apparently misunderstood as well. Sorry. I assumed you meant people who are employed to fly. Never mind. Must have been the cervezas I've had.:cool:
 
Not Free

Jarhead:

While a very small number of carriers may offer free space available flight for their employees and families, that isn't common. Since this is a public web board lets not give the public a mis-representation. We have a hard enough time trying to explain to John Q. Public that we all don't make $200,000 per year and work only 10 days per month.

While a larger number of carriers have started going to free travel what was the true cost of that ? Most of those deals were in combination with concessions from the employees. So they took at 25% pay cut and now get to fly for free instead of for a mileage based service charge or yearly fee. I think I'd rather have the 25% back.

Lets not even get into the government wanting to tax us on this " free " travel. It is best not to advertise our benefits in public to those who don't understand. We pay for it one way or another.


Typhoonpilot
 
For future reference, don't listen to JarHead; he is NOT an airline pilot; although, his son is a pilot for one of the commuter airlines (after Chi Chi's decided to dump him as a bartender).
 
Typhoon...............

I would beg to differ with you on that assertion. You state that "a very small number of carriers may offer free space available flight for their employees and families". and then you contradict yourself at the beginning of your very next paragraph, with the statement "While a larger number of carriers have started going to free travel what was the true cost of that ?"

The guy that started the thread, and asked the question about "pilot perk's" asked nothing about the "true cost" as you put it.

That said, almost ALL airlines offer space available to their employees and their families. Not JUST pilots, but MX, FA's CSD, etc. My wife and I have ALWAYS been able to find a free ride, not only on Comair (My son's employer) but on Delta flights as well, being they own Comair. In fact, it is a DELTA FLIGHT PASS card that I carry in my wallet that I swipe through the airport kiosk that spits out my paperwork to go through security to the gate.

A very good friend and neighbor of mine is a 757 captain at Northwest Airlines. I can't tell you the number of times he and his wife have gone to Hawaii on a space available basis, but it's a lot.

Now, forget about the family benefit. How about a benefit that is unique to airline pilots alone.............the jump seat. Pilots commute all the time in the cockpit jump seat, and often in back as a jumpseater. They not only can jump seat on their own companies aircraft, but on aircraft belonging to direct competitors. I have another neighbor who commutes to CVG from MSP, and he has on occasion, used Mesaba and NWA to get home when their was an earlier flight available from CVG to MSP than what his own employer's schedule offered. My son, a Comair Captain and Sim instructor, has also visited us in MSP, and on occasion has taken numerous aircraft home with a detour to ORD, when the flights were full to CVG, and a more senior pilot had priority for the jump seat.

Typhoon, I FLY FOR FREE, irrespective of what you complain about. It is a perk I get, and I gave up nothing to get that benefit. It was FREE for me. Maybe you feel it cost you something, but it cost ME absolutely ZERO, and it cost my son Nothing. His pay has gone continually UP, since he started working at a very strong regional airline.

As for Dieterly, Ignore that buffoon. I think he is just irked about a position I took about speeding tickets and getting an airline job. You can read that moronic post on another post by started by a 'non airline pilot called "Alaskaairlines" On second thought, I will copy and paste it right here to save the trouble of finding that moronic view.

From Dieterly:
"Don't worry about it, I got on a major with 6 speeding tickets, and that was even before the hiring boom". There are actually airlines out there that are more interested in how you are in the cockpit instead of in a car at 6am on a deserted road, and then of course we have Comair... "No sir, I don't know how to fly, but I sure can mix a killer margarita...."

Then this liar, makes the assertion from a anecdotal comment I made in that same thread on speeding tickets where I talked about my son walking to and from his part time job as a bartender in college, to avoid an even an appearance of drinking and driving, that my son was fired. Dieterly also tries to denigrate Comair by using the term "commuter" for the regional carrier, Comair. This of course, is the perjorative term used to denigrate that portion of the industry.

You see, I believe that Dieterly has misrepresented himself as well. Since he lied about something he has no way of knowing anything about, he also most likely lied about his credentials that he lists as his profile on this board.....flown: 152's to 747, and 10,000 hours. Yeah, right!!!! Dieterly has less maturity than a pimply faced 17 year old, and I suspect strongly that he suffers from small dick syndrome. Nothing else can explain this moron's attitude.

And Dieterly did have one thing right. I am not an airline pilot, and have never represented myself to be one. That does not preclude me from being knowledgeable on topic I take a position on. I am close to a lot of things in the industry since I have an interest in it, and I do read, and obeserve, and expeierince life to enable me to comment.

Typhoon, if you are that concerned that the public will get the "wrong idea" about pilots from me talking about factual stuff on this board, you need to re think that. Your greater concern should be with dick heads like Dieterly and the image they portray on these boards, of aholes that fly airplanes.
 
Yes, I agree with you. Just for the heck of it, I did a search on all this guy's past postings. EVERYTHING he has to say, is in the negative. He even went so far on one thread where a pilot was trying to honor his dad about his last flight on AA due to age 60 retirement. This classy guy (Dieterly) could only come up with a comment about all the FA's his dad must have "nailed" in his long career. Dieterly is no more of an airline pilot than I am. He could never pass a physiological profile and background check. Just a loser with an ax to grind over his miserable life.
 
Us private pilots don't get the perks that the 121 pilots get except the ladies adore you and throw themselves at you. :rolleyes:
 
Perks

As far as employee/family travel goes, I know that my
family has enjoyed travel privlidges on UAL for more than
15 years now - space available basis - and I have enjoyed
many trips and leisure travels in the past 10 years or so.
However, although space available travel used to be free,
now they garnish my father's paycheck for excessive
fees whenever I or anyone else travels on the airline. Except
for travel on UAX which is still available at no cost for us.
That is contrary to the statements made earlier on this board
that alleged that pay/work rule give backs had led to
many pilot groups getting free/reduced fee travel on their
carriers.

As for Private and Commercial GA pilots? Well, I did try to
get the jumpseat on a Gulfstream IV once from PDK-MDW,
they said they would have taken me - they were empty -
but passengers were going to go at the last minute. Join
AOPA or something if you want other GA perks.

As for everything else that has been posted on this thread - I have one word : WOW.
 
LXApilot

Sorry to hear your fathers paycheck gets charged "fees" when you fly space available on UAL. That situation, thankfully, does not happen to my sons paycheck, regardless of whether the non-rev flight was on Comair or Delta aircraft. When non-reving on a Delta flight, we almost always fly up in the first class section, as most people won't pay the high ticket price, that we non-rev's get for free. Almost all the 16 first class seats in a Delta 737-800 are occupied by employees and/or emplyoyees family members. The gate agent's at Delta have even put me up in first class when I did not feel I was dressed to the first class dress code (no blue jeans) and asked for a coach seat on my Delta Pass Card listing.
 
jarhead said:
How about a benefit that is unique to airline pilots alone.............the jump seat. Pilots commute all the time in the cockpit jump seat, and often in back as a jumpseater.

I'm no expert but I believe that other people on this forum have said that jumpseating in the cockpit jumpseat has become a rare occurence in the past few years. Sounds like they almost always sit in the back now.
 
With all the empty seats in the back now-a-days, you are correct. Much more comfortable than the cramped jumpseat in the cockpit. But, it's there in case a flight is sold out
 
AA used to (and still does as far as I know) charge the fees for family members using passes. It was basically that the ticket was free, but all the taxes, fees, government handout subsidies, whatever, were sucked out of the employee's paycheck for that month. Not a huge amount, just enough to screw up a good thing and add to the "Air Nazi" reputation you hear frequently on this board.

Then there's the fact that they switched over from unlimited D2 passes for nuclear family members because a certain segment of their workforce contains a sizable number of people with a certain "lifestyle" with no interest in being "married" so they had to go to a system of X number of flights per year you can give to whomever the heck you want. Lifepartners, biker bar buddies, whatever.

God forbid we allow a benefit for the good old (and much beleagured) American family. Sheesh.
 
Salty Dog,

I had to smile as I read your post. It is so true.
When my son married a Comair FA, he did not need the non-rev benefits for her, as she had her own. My wife and I of course had our own benefits, but my son figured...."heck, I'm giving up that pass card for nothing, so I may as well name my "life partner" for the issuance of that card. He chose his Grand Father for that pass, and his "Gramps" indeed, got non rev benefits. Just workin' the system!
 

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