Piedmont Large Turbo Prop Rates

[GlenQ]

No, this is just to perpetuate the rumor that we are getting Q's so we might be able to attract a couple more 250 hour pilots. Mgm't is having a hard time even getting these guys to show up for ground school.

damn dude, you just ruined it now...hope you're happy

 

[WSurf]

No, this is just to perpetuate the rumor that we are getting Q's so we might be able to attract a couple more 250 hour pilots. Mgm't is having a hard time even getting these guys to show up for ground school.

No, not true! Getting new TurboProps isn't gonna get anyone to come to this airline! So by them saying we are getting new Q's doesn't me crap to anyone that wants to come here. Why? Cause its still a TurboProp. You want people to come here, then you need to get new planes (Q's or ATR's) with good payrates and a better QOL..... Plus the flowthru wouldn't hurt at all! Thats the only way US Airways is gonna get people at PDT or PSA for that matter.

So by Neg. Large Turboprop rates, isn't a ploy to get people to come or stay around! I really believe that US Airways wants these things all up and down the east coast! We shall see......

 

[GSXR600]

No, not true! Getting new TurboProps isn't gonna get anyone to come to this airline! So by them saying we are getting new Q's doesn't me crap to anyone that wants to come here. Why? Cause its still a TurboProp. You want people to come here, then you need to get new planes (Q's or ATR's) with good payrates and a better QOL..... Plus the flowthru wouldn't hurt at all! Thats the only way US Airways is gonna get people at PDT or PSA for that matter.

So by Neg. Large Turboprop rates, isn't a ploy to get people to come or stay around! I really believe that US Airways wants these things all up and down the east coast! We shall see......

Well!!! just watched the monthly conference video of Doug Parker (Useless Air C.O) he attends every month and one guy asked him about the flow-thru and apparently he didn’t sound too positive about it. All 4 MEC’s (East, West, PSA and Pdmnt) have to agree upon. But on the last alpa meeting on Sept 6 which I believe he said that the East side MEC didn’t show up…… no clear agreement was reached. Then he said if all 4 MEC’s come up with some type of negotiation to get concessions and everything could be manage on a way that works for the company in terms of having enough pilots for the Express side then company will be happy to negotiate a flow-thru. But as of now nothing has been done.

 

[Sig]

But as of now nothing has been done.

That is completely incorrect. A tremendous amount has "been done," but your post points to some glaring non-facts.

Is it rosy? No. Is it perfect? No.

Do you understand where LOA91 sits in all of this? No.

Do you have any idea what you're talking about?




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No.


But what do I know?

 

[WSurf]

Well!!! just watched the monthly conference video of Doug Parker (Useless Air C.O) he attends every month and one guy asked him about the flow-thru and apparently he didn’t sound too positive about it. All 4 MEC’s (East, West, PSA and Pdmnt) have to agree upon. But on the last alpa meeting on Sept 6 which I believe he said that the East side MEC didn’t show up…… no clear agreement was reached. Then he said if all 4 MEC’s come up with some type of negotiation to get concessions and everything could be manage on a way that works for the company in terms of having enough pilots for the Express side then company will be happy to negotiate a flow-thru. But as of now nothing has been done.

You don't work here? And what you have typed lets me know you are totally clueless on whats going on!

Concessions?????? What the hell are you talking about Junior!! Now go back outside and Play in the sandbox!!

 

[sucit]

So, what do the pay rates look like? Are they closer to Colgan or Horizon??

 

[WSurf]

So, what do the pay rates look like? Are they closer to Colgan or Horizon??

From what I have heard!!!! Rumor!! It should be out next week for vote.

18-25% pay increase for captains..

10% Pay increase for FO!

Way higher then Colgan and Lower then Horizon. You could probably add 10-12 dollars to Captain rates, and about 5 dollars more to FO rates.

But remember, we won't know the details until next week.

 

[Sig]

and about 5 dollars more to FO rates.

FINALLY! -300 parity for FOs! LMAO.

 

[GSXR600]

You don't work here? And what you have typed lets me know you are totally clueless on whats going on!

Concessions?????? What the hell are you talking about Junior!! Now go back outside and Play in the sandbox!!

Calm down bosss!!!!!!
go the hub and see yourself
and is call X-box

 

[OPECJet]

AAA was at the meeting referred to by Dougweiser. It was PSA that was absent. The company wouldn't let anyone off to attend.

 

[greyskyracer]

Horizon also loves the Q's breakdown/cycle ratio too... Hopefully they will have found all the major problems for Bombardier before we ever get them. Do the 72-500's have the goofy rear entry Pax loading???

looks like it and what a shame. My favorite thing about not having jetways is watching hot girls get on my airplane.

http://www.atr.fr/

I guess an ATR will be in the berry tomorrow.

 

[Sig]

I guess an ATR will be in the berry tomorrow.

Which would only make perfect sense.

The turmoil the airline would be thrown in would take a year to establish a moderately-chaotic system that just barely works. In other words, like it's running right now.

The training, the contractual limits on the crew training, the parts, the parts, the maintenance, the parts, and the maintenance don't even begin to address staffing. So, yeah- ATRs are a perfect solution to a perfectly gimped system.

 

[SRMairlines]

Hopefully Piedmont will get something good in the future. It was a constant struggle when I was there (years ago) hearing stuff like "Flow thru" & "Jets" are coming. Supposedly a Q400 program was in the works that the mainline guy opposed? That was 5 years ago and nothing happened. The supposed pilot shortage on the horizon will hopefully change that.

 

[Sig]

The supposed pilot shortage on the horizon will hopefully change that.

Now you're making sense, SRM. That's not allowed.

The shortage isn't necessarily going to be on the regionals front first, as far as an immediate impact is concerned. But it is real. What I'm worried about is the regionals are going to be holding pens at the expense of senior captains' QOL when the flow-up machine goes into full gear.

There I go again, giving a damn.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Funny how the Union hasn't said anything about this yet. Info from an official source might be nice.

I don't think the Union has officially commented on that "Preferential Hiring" fiasco either. Still determining a position perhaps?

Haven't seen hide nor hair of G.D. in a long time...

 

[zasca]

Parts? I thought the -400's only common part with the 100/300's was the gear handle...

 

[Captzaahlie]

Well!!! just watched the monthly conference video of Doug Parker (Useless Air C.O) he attends every month and one guy asked him about the flow-thru and apparently he didn’t sound too positive about it. All 4 MEC’s (East, West, PSA and Pdmnt) have to agree upon. But on the last alpa meeting on Sept 6 which I believe he said that the East side MEC didn’t show up…… no clear agreement was reached. Then he said if all 4 MEC’s come up with some type of negotiation to get concessions and everything could be manage on a way that works for the company in terms of having enough pilots for the Express side then company will be happy to negotiate a flow-thru. But as of now nothing has been done.

Maybe Stevie Farrow forgot to send his memo to Dougie Parker. This could be why Dougie is out of the loop on preferential hiring/ flow thru........

 

[zasca]

No... Dougie and Co. created that preferential hiring memo and Farrow pasted his name on it. They did this because they are going to be hiring soon with NO flow through in place come November. This is largely the fault of the MEC's dicking around with creating a mutual agreement to pitch to management. IF the pitch is realistic and not conflicting with management stipulations, the whole pref hiring thing may be avoided. However, why would Tempe move quickly on this when there is little, if not negative, financial benefits in a flow?

It's not if we get flow, it's when (and how many seniority numbers we lose to people off the street)....