Piedmont Airlines`

[no1pilot2000]

For those who might be interested in applying for a job as a pilot for Piedmont, they are currently accepting applications/resumes. Visit their web site for further details.

 

[PropPiedmont]

If Piedmont management knows what they're doing I would expect to see them hire at least 150 this year. Attrition rate is gonna go through the roof the first half of the year.

 

[Booker]

If Piedmont management knows what they're doing

Ha ha, thanks for the addition to the Sunday funnies!

 

[ceo_of_the_sofa]

Why just the first half?

 

[DC8 Flyer]

Ha ha, thanks for the addition to the Sunday funnies!

Go to work slacker!

 

[ROSWELL41]

Whats going to happen at Piedmont?

 

[jvrac]

Whats going to happen at Piedmont?

Republic/Chautauqua is hiring like crazy, that's what.

 

[Booker]

Go to work slacker!

Already gone and back, brother! Blocked 2+03 and got paid 5+10. Slacker? You bet! imp:

 

[DC8 Flyer]

Already gone and back, brother! Blocked 2+03 and got paid 5+10. Slacker? You bet! imp:

Yeah, well, uhhhh, hmmmmm, MINES BIGGER! :0

 

[Booker]

Yeah, well, uhhhh, hmmmmm, MINES BIGGER! :0

Whatever makes you feel better, bud.

 

[Quack]

If Piedmont management knows what they're doing.

In that case, don't expect ANYTHING!! PDT will never be staffed properly because that's the way Farrow likes it. Run the operation as thin as possible just to get by. Anything more costs the company and Farrow's retirement check!

 

[LearLove]

Run the operation as thin as possible just to get by. Anything more costs the company and Farrow's retirement check!

thats like every other company in the world today (other than a govt funded type job) not just PDT or the airlines.

 

[DieselDash]

nothing will ever happen at piedmont

 

[check6]

The PDT managment is stuck in the 80s. I called Chickentown once for the CP's e-mail address and no one knew it. I think it's the wood paneling, brown carpet, and the old Dash's they are surrounded by.

 

[PropPiedmont]

nothing will ever happen at piedmont

Except for the fact that 30 to 40 captains will quit next year and 15 to 20 will retire. If they don't start hiring like mad, then Dash-8s will be getting parked next year. Don't forget were averaging two parked Dash-8s right now.

 

[twighead]

Except for the fact that 30 to 40 captains will quit next year and 15 to 20 will retire. If they don't start hiring like mad, then Dash-8s will be getting parked next year. Don't forget were averaging two parked Dash-8s right now.

Where do you come up with this figure of 30-40 Captains quitting?

 

[nedflembag]

Yeah according to the "ASK PIEDMONT" garbage. They are only planning on hiring 95-100 FO's next year and upgrading 25. So 95 minus the 25 upgrades means they only expect about 6 FO's to quit a month. WTF I think they will be lucky not to have 6 a week quit. With so little movement FO's at 6 and a half years upgrade time right now. No reason to think any flowthrough will come. Why would anyone stay.

 

[Sig]

Where do you come up with this figure of 30-40 Captains quitting?

Do you talk to any of them? Just now I have 6 names that have (or will have) interviewed at SWA counting three and a half weeks back from today, and that's from talking to them directly. That doesn't mean squat as far as actual attrition (interview is one thing, class date is another), but it points to folks moving on.

AirTran is an attractive choice for many- and former Piedmonsters are doing well over there.

North American has taken a few since September.

CAL much? How's 'bout JBLU- one feller has an A320 class date in January.

I moved up 47 numbers since OCT bid package?! Wow.

 

[Sig]

Why would anyone stay.

If you get hired with 8 multi and 500 total, you get to terrorize the captains until just before CQ and bail. Seeee ya.

Yeah, upgrade is a pipe dream. I will be in the simulator walking some kid through a parallel entry on my type ride when the doors close... hehehe.

 

[Muppets]

For those of you interested........EVERY regional is accepting resumes

 

[JohnnyP]

Do you talk to any of them? Just now I have 6 names that have (or will have) interviewed at SWA counting three and a half weeks back from today, and that's from talking to them directly. That doesn't mean squat as far as actual attrition (interview is one thing, class date is another), but it points to folks moving on.

AirTran is an attractive choice for many- and former Piedmonsters are doing well over there.

North American has taken a few since September.

CAL much? How's 'bout JBLU- one feller has an A320 class date in January.

I moved up 47 numbers since OCT bid package?! Wow.

Come on Sig, like everyone on this website says, jet operators dont hire turboprop guys, they dont have any jet time, you know this. Because if you fly a turboprop, you cannot be trained to fly a jet, its obvious.

 

[Sig]

I KNOW! The weirdest part is seeing some guy in an A330 that came from a YS-11... how'd he do that?

I blame my FBO for not having a swept-wing heavy to rent. If I'd just known then what I know now, I'd never have wasted my time in a dang Seminole. I should've started with a MCDU and Laws, not stick and rudder. WHAT WAS I THINKING?

 

[DC8 Flyer]

Come on Sig, like everyone on this website says, jet operators dont hire turboprop guys, they dont have any jet time, you know this. Because if you fly a turboprop, you cannot be trained to fly a jet, its obvious.

So trooooooo! That transistion from the Dash to a jet was so hard, it made baby jesus cry......:cartman:




/drippingwithsarcasm

 

[n32jk]

I KNOW! The weirdest part is seeing some guy in an A330 that came from a YS-11... how'd he do that?

I blame my FBO for not having a swept-wing heavy to rent. If I'd just known then what I know now, I'd never have wasted my time in a dang Seminole. I should've started with a MCDU and Laws, not stick and rudder. WHAT WAS I THINKING?

Wow someone on this board old enough to know what a YS-11 is. Anyone else here actually fly the rice barge?? It was a great bird in the downhill events.

 

[Sig]

Wow someone on this board old enough to know what a YS-11 is.

Now that hurt.

I remember riding in a San Antonio Sewer Pipe outta Battle Creek a few times. I dug the AW logo... that was some time ago.

 

[Booker]

So trooooooo! That transistion from the Dash to a jet was so hard, it made baby jesus cry......:cartman:
/drippingwithsarcasm

Concur, sarcasm and all, although yours is bigger.

 

[twighead]

Do you talk to any of them? Just now I have 6 names that have (or will have) interviewed at SWA counting three and a half weeks back from today, and that's from talking to them directly. That doesn't mean squat as far as actual attrition (interview is one thing, class date is another), but it points to folks moving on.

AirTran is an attractive choice for many- and former Piedmonsters are doing well over there.

North American has taken a few since September.

CAL much? How's 'bout JBLU- one feller has an A320 class date in January.

I moved up 47 numbers since OCT bid package?! Wow.

sure. i talk to them. they all talk about how the place sucks and that they have had their applications in at every airline from here to timbutcu for the past ten years. the fact remains that they have been here for 20+ years and never go anywhere.

believe me, i would love it if 30-40 captains left, but just like everything else here, nothing ever seems to happen.

 

[Sig]

the fact remains that they have been here for 20+ years and never go anywhere.

Oookay... every single pilot I mentioned (the ones whose names I know, whom I talk to, that are moving on to those airlines I mentioned, etc) has been here less than 7* years. That includes the two years of squat movement, upgrading, and grabbing experience in the left seat to move on. Change your audience- why get information from a peeved 20+ year guy? That's worthless!

*aww, crap. One of them is around the 10 year mark, but gave up on the flowthrough and SEEE YAAAAAaaaa...

 

[twighead]

Oookay... every single pilot I mentioned (the ones whose names I know, whom I talk to, that are moving on to those airlines I mentioned, etc) has been here less than 7* years. That includes the two years of squat movement, upgrading, and grabbing experience in the left seat to move on. Change your audience- why get information from a peeved 20+ year guy? That's worthless!

*aww, crap. One of them is around the 10 year mark, but gave up on the flowthrough and SEEE YAAAAAaaaa...

true, but the point i was making is that there are way too many guys here that have been here for too long. the seven year guys aren't the ones who are holding us back.

if there are really guys staying just to hold onto the flowthrough dream, that is just sad.

of course this is all from my perspective- which is i need them out of here so i don't have retire before i make captain. it would just be nice if this place was even remotely on par with the upgrade time of other turboprop outfits.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

true, but the point i was making is that there are way too many guys here that have been here for too long. the seven year guys aren't the ones who are holding us back.

if there are really guys staying just to hold onto the flowthrough dream, that is just sad.

of course this is all from my perspective- which is i need them out of here so i don't have retire before i make captain. it would just be nice if this place was even remotely on par with the upgrade time of other turboprop outfits.

Question: How long have you been here? If your profile is accurate, then I will bet about a year and a half... Maybe less. If your profile is meant to be some kind of overly sophisticated joke, then maybe I am missing the punchline?

Assuming the profile is accurate then, I shall continue...

Let me get this straight: You are a 1500-2000 hour FO who is likely on his/her first airline, probably with precious little experience with flying anything other then Dashes and the ASELs that Perdue/UND/ERAU has to offer. And you are crying about lack of upgrade? Cry me a freaking river why don't ya!

You are right... The pace of upgrades at Piedmont is frustrating. When I was hired the junior upgrade in my class had been employed somewhere on the order of 2 and a half years. On September 10th 2001, I figured I had maybe another year in the right seat at the most. Things changed. It ended up taking me 4 years, 3 months and fifteen days. And this is my second airline. Was I frustrated? You bet. Bitter, maybe a little. Feeling myself in a position to opine on others choices regarding thier careers? Hell no.

Telling others that "you've been here too long" and "flowthrough is a pipe dream" shows that maybe you don't realize how absolutely fortunate you really are. No/little freight dogging. No 2000 hours of dual given. Just school and an airline job with a spiffy uniform and PICs who are kind enough to share some tidbits of thier hard earned knowledge with a newbie like you. Remember that many of these folks who have been here "too long" have accumulated baggage that you may not yet have: A spouse, children, a mortgage, etc. All of these things subtract from your career options, in so much that striking a balance between your personal and professional life often requires sacrifices in both. Going to JetBlue for $35 bucks an hour (even for just a year) may not be possible. They don't owe it to you to get out of your way. You owe it to them to respect thier choices.

Flowthrough: Who knows what is going to happen? We have it, according to the restructuring agreement. We gave up benefits and compensation for it. For those of us who did (I kind of doubt you were here for that vote) it doesn't seem silly at all to fight for what is legally ours. Is it a definate you can take to the bank, no. But you have very little standing telling anyone who has been here much longer what is "sad" and what isn't.

A word about upgrade times: When your career choices are driven soley by the promise of a quick upgrade, you make those choices at your own peril. Upgrade times can change at the drop of a hat. No airline hires/advances forever. Comair, ASA, the seemingly forgotten ACA (that became independance, in case your industry knowledge doesn't go back that far), Air Wisconsin, Mesaba... All of those airlines had periods of rapid upgrade, to be later followed by something far different. All airlines are cyclical, and none are immune.

If you think you can do better elsewhere, move right along. I wish you luck, truly. But commenting on others choices and viewpoints with precious little experience of your own makes you look like a silly kid who want his lollypop RIGHT NOW.