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picking up in the air was the only way we could make up time flying commuters, of course if it's clear. ops specs determine it, so why not.

if you're in underlying class b, or near moutainous, well not the best choice.
too many CFITs from not maintaining vfr. or the min Vec Alt.

but #5 is okay , doesn't mean you're unsafe.

Personally, I wont grab my clearance in the air anymore. At my company we are allowed to depart and grab the clearance within 50nm. In a jet, 50nm comes pretty quick. I've been burned by our dispatch several times in the past when they didnt have a flight plan in the system for us. Its no fun to get airborne only to call up ATC and have them tell you they dont have anything in the system and they are too busy to file a plan for you.
 
If the Bahama's(caribbean) are on your b50 it is impossible to get a clearance on the ground by any means unless you are in Nassau or Freeport. What do you all do then?
 
windsor:

didn't you have a release with you? are you part 121 or 135?

when you said our dispatch, i know 121 requires dispatch, but 135 is self dispatch. sure , there may be a company person acting like one, but it is a psuedo dispatch and not the one requiring you have a relase in your hand
with: flight plan ,min fuel, weather for destination, alternate and payload,
 
If I am in unfamiliar territory I ask the last controller if he is cool with an airborne pickup on the way in. I also ask if he has an outbound clearance in front of him. If the controller doesnt seem excited about the idea I go through the best alternate freq/number.
I departed a small field near PHL for an airborne pickup without asking one time. Legal, but the guy was pissed and it took him some time to "find" my clearance.
 
windsor:

didn't you have a release with you? are you part 121 or 135?

when you said our dispatch, i know 121 requires dispatch, but 135 is self dispatch. sure , there may be a company person acting like one, but it is a psuedo dispatch and not the one requiring you have a relase in your hand
with: flight plan ,min fuel, weather for destination, alternate and payload,


We have 2 sides to our company, 121 and 135 so we have licensed dispatchers working for us. On the 135 side we are not required to have a dispatch release, but dispatch handle's all our flight planning for us and will send us a Jepp. flight plan that has everything you stated above.
 
We hold our IFR to the ground, regardless of the weather. When we're departing, we can get our clearance in the air, weather permitting. If the airport we're going into does not report weather, then we must be able to take off VFR and get the clearance in the air. That one can bite ya if you're not careful. :)
 

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