Pick your Poison. Back to the regionals?

[Propsync]

Good luck, and keep us updated. I am curious where you can go with 100 turbine PIC, other than the regionals. I wonder how competitive you are.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

Good luck, and keep us updated. I am curious where you can go with 100 turbine PIC, other than the regionals. I wonder how competitive you are.

Ouch baby...very ouch.

 

[Snapshot]

First thing, go down to the unemployment office and secure yourself some income for the transition. You've paid into the fund for years and it is designed for people like you. Helps the transition to new employment. While you're at the office, Look into the Workforce Improvement Fund (WIF). There is money just sitting there and they'll give it to you to get a type rating. Good luck. It's going to be a rough few months. Try to stay positive and approach it as an opportunity.

 

[FirstMate]

Consider something overseas. There is a whole new world to be discovered and good pay to be had.

 

[Formula 1]

Life has just opened a door for you, my friend. We'd love to have you at Avantair. Get us a resume. [email protected].

What are your bases and what is starting pay like? Thanks.

 

[AftCG182]

This should take care of most of the preliminary questions...

http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/fractional/avantair.html

We like it here...

 

[FurloughedAgain]

yikes, that first year FO pay is beyond miserable. Holy cow.

The Captain pay is reasonable I suppose -- livable at least -- but without some guaranteed timeframe for upgrade I just can't imagine too many people (at least those without trust funds) going to work for Avantair.

I guess single, young, regional pilots are always the exception to every rule though.

 

[AftCG182]

Upgrade time is one year. Then you start at 2nd year Captain pay.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

Never ever take a job predicated on "upgrade time". Upgrades are generated by two things: growth and attrition. Both of those can grind to a stop in a New York second.

Never take a job where you are not prepared to remain First Officer for an extended period of time.

 

[AftCG182]

Never ever take a job predicated on "upgrade time". Upgrades are generated by two things: growth and attrition. Both of those can grind to a stop in a New York second.

Never take a job where you are not prepared to remain First Officer for an extended period of time.

True. However, one year is the current upgrade time. We are growing. With Jet-A becoming more expensive by the minute, our Piaggios become more valuable by the minute.

We're relatively new and growing. Thus, the more conservative pay scale (when compared with older, more established fractionals). But we're still paid better than even the best of the regionals.

I believe that the original question was "fractionals or regionals?" Just thought I'd offer a suggestion. Good luck with the decision making process.

 

[XJohXJ]

True. However, one year is the current upgrade time. We are growing. With Jet-A becoming more expensive by the minute, our Piaggios become more valuable by the minute.

We're relatively new and growing. Thus, the more conservative pay scale (when compared with older, more established fractionals). But we're still paid better than even the best of the regionals.

I believe that the original question was "fractionals or regionals?" Just thought I'd offer a suggestion. Good luck with the decision making process.

True, first year FO pay is not as good as it is at NetJets, but not everyone can get hired at NetJets, regardless of merit or other worth.

Nonetheless, it looks like your first year FO pay is significantly better than first year FO pay at ANY of the regionals, and a few major/legacies, as well.

I don't see any reason to bash these guys for their first year FO pay. Sure, it could be better, but it beats most 121 pay.

 

[GFunk20]

So are we gonna ever find out what airline is furloughing that he is talking about?

 

[Capt. Qdoba]

So are we gonna ever find out what airline is furloughing that he is talking about?

Pretty sure it's Aloha.

 

[BoilerUP]

Good luck, and keep us updated. I am curious where you can go with 100 turbine PIC, other than the regionals. I wonder how competitive you are.

Netjets, CitationShares, Flexjet, Avantair, Alpha Flying, XO Jet, Flight Options, and any number of 135 operations....or a 91 operation if you're lucky and know somebody that's hiring (and they know you).

 

[fly4surf]

It's Aloha, and they are not furloughing now, they are closing doors for good.