westwind driver
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We brief every takeoff the the T per our operations manual, and it goes like this; "We'll abort for anything below 90 kias. 90 kias up to but not including V1 we'll abort for engine fire, failure, loss of directional control, cabin and cockpit fire or smoke. At and above V1 we'll continue the takeoff, treat it as an inflight emergency and go from there."
We have never addressed an incapacitation. Think I'll bring this up at our next department meeting.
BTW, this event happened while flying contract, not on the westwind i fly full time.
We have never addressed an incapacitation. Think I'll bring this up at our next department meeting.
BTW, this event happened while flying contract, not on the westwind i fly full time.
Peanut gallery said:An abort for suspected incapacitation is not where I would go. Unless the PF turns into some kind of floppy doll that is clearly in trouble, and could turn into a control blocker.
Take off briefing, "if anything happens below 80 knots we will abort. Above 80 knots we will abort for engine failure, fire, or any condition that we feel compromises the aircraft's ability to fly. After V1 we will contnue".
Breakdown in communications sometimes happen, communication is a subset of what we call CRM. Sometimes the breakdown is a two way street. Maybe we have not been heard. We need to communicate our concerns at an elevated level if no response is seen/ heard. I think I would have made a repeat of the call quite a bit louder and with some degree of authority. This may have drawn the PF back into the program. Incapacitation follows a two interrrogation rule at my workplace, then you should start assuming control. Changing the profile to something not previosly briefed for what could be a PF that simply has JT-8 syndrome is really not my personal preference.
Just my .02