People Express pay question

[enigma]

Does anyone know how the pay scales at People Express compared to their competition? Did People Express have significant pilot pay advantage over everyone else?

For that matter, was the pay at post strike CAL, EAL, etc substantially lower than the rates of the then dominant carriers?

thanks,
enigma

 

[enigma]

Come on men, someone has to know about PeopleExpress.

Bump.

enigma

 

[CSY Mon]

Well, yes I worked with a bunch of ex P.E. pilots, including the chief, but don't remember the pay-scale....If they ever told me.

 

[JimNtexas]

Didn't People Express require its pilots to take "additional duties" by working as ticket agents and other ground duties for a few days every month?

 

[CSY Mon]

Yup, them guys were selling tickets and throwing bags.

A new concept with rapid upgrades, as well as the cheap ticket darling of the traveling public.

Guess some of them guys ended up with Continental, and a few with Tower Air.

They had the first ever female B-747 cockpit crew.....?

 

[pilotyip]

many became rich

The stock option deal made alot of the early employees rich. Source "Hard Landing"

 

[GogglesPisano]

Didn't People Express require its pilots to take "additional duties" by working as ticket agents and other ground duties for a few days every month?

I wonder if any ticket agent ever preflighted or reviewed a release?

 

[Flightjock30]

People Express had the youngest Boeing 747 captain in the world at one time in his late 20s. His name was Captain Paul Havis and he made a video of him and other PE 747 pilots flying the "classic" 747. The video was called "A 747 Pilot's Eye View" I believe. You can buy it on the internet.
Havis is now 777 Captain for Continental out of Newark in his early 50s. How time flies!!!

 

[bobbysamd]

PE info

The stock option deal made alot of the early employees rich. Source "Hard Landing"

Hard Landing by Petzinger has a wealth of info about People Express.

Good suggestion, Yip.

 

[CSY Mon]

People Express had the youngest Boeing 747 captain in the world at one time in his late 20s

Hmm, I was a late bloomer, 747 captain at age 39....BUT DC-3 capt at age 29.


We had some young captn's at Evergreen also....DC-9 capt early 20s, DC-8 mid 20s and 747 capt late 20s. Nice guy he was..Now with Korean..

At one time I flew with an ex-CAL guy, he was DC-9 capt at 21...One of those lucky dates / numbers...After the 83 strike and him being on the street and hauling non-sched crafts around the sky without the glory and the contract, he was a bitter man...He made the cockpit a hell-hole...My biggest motivation for upgrading away from the right seat at Tower Air was to avoid flying with him and his foul mouth and temper.

Made it...My turn...

 

[Publishers]

Original question

Yes I believe that Peoples did have a considerable cost advantage over the other carriers and also did require them to do other duties. Their pay was fixed not hourly I believe.

As to EAL and the others post strike, I do not think they were much less than before but less work rules and more productivity.

 

[FSB99]

bitter? foul mouth and temper? from a former cal pilot?? no way!

 

[CSY Mon]

bitter? foul mouth and temper? from a former cal pilot?? no way!

He-he, ubeliveable but true...

To get him going ya either mentioned something about his ex-wife, or the CAL scabs....He would scream and shout all the way across the Atlantic, red in the face and ranting and rambling on.

Some F/Os would turn him on like a radio, then tune him out as he wound himself up..