People Express Blows!

[luckytohaveajob]

People Express blows. People was a communist, reinvented abortion of an airline. The fact that pilots loaded bags, shoveled snow, volunteered for dispatch, and worked as a janitor is proof of its incredible failure.

People Express failed as an airline. Its philosophy, actions, and plan sucked!

And anyone who claims it was anything other than a failure is a loser.

Any carrier infected by Frank Lorenzo was a failure. Frank even took great carriers like Eastern and Frontier into the toilet. Use the toilet paper to wipe the brown off your mouths and move on.

CAL inherited all the baggage and will never get rid of it.

 

[NuGuy]

Heyas,

All of the above may be true, but they still had guys lined up to work there and drink the kool-aid, and they still had people lined up to fly them.

Cheap seats...at any cost.

Nu

 

[luckytohaveajob]

Heyas,

All of the above may be true, but they still had guys lined up to work there and drink the kool-aid, and they still had people lined up to fly them.

Cheap seats...at any cost.

Nu

true enough but to think it was a glorious experiment in airline history is a false myth of failed memories.

 

[cldsfr79]

Ummm....Do you even know about the history of People Express? The airline was started by Don Burr, who did work Lorenzo under Texas Air, but disagreed with Lorenzo's work ethics and vision, so Burr went out to start a new airline. People Express helped revive the Newark airport and was a highly successful and "fun" place to work. Its down fall was its rapid expansion and the purchase of the original Frontier Airlines. To much debt over took People Express, and Burr, against his own judgment, sold the airline to Lorenzo. People Express was then blended into Continental Airlines, making it a larger airline. I do agree though that Lorenzo was a terrible airline head and only cared about himself and his addiction to greed.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

Peoples= SKYBUS

I am very familiar with the People story. It was a stock market explosion. People's made millions, grew at triple digit percentage expansion its first few years. Problem is none of it was real. It It started in late 1981 and was toast by 1986. Five years of hype. And the only thing that kept is going for five years was the hype of the hype.

The working conditions were hideous. The pilots paid for their own coffee they got from the FA's. The FA's ripped off the company every chance they got, pocketing the cash only purchases. Everything was Alla carte. The passengers paid on the plane for the seat, seat belt extender, the cokes they drank, everything. If Don Burr could have rigged a Boeing lavatory lock to accept quarters the toilets would have been pay to go.

I remember another airline which used the People Express model. It was called SKYBUS! You must be a big fan of Skybus if you liked Peoples.

Peoples, SKYBUS, and todays CAL management are cut from same cloth in every way.

 

[StopNTSing]

People Express blows. People was a communist, reinvented abortion of an airline. The fact that pilots loaded bags, shoveled snow, volunteered for dispatch, and worked as a janitor is proof of its incredible failure.

People Express failed as an airline. Its philosophy, actions, and plan sucked!

And anyone who claims it was anything other than a failure is a loser.

Any carrier infected by Frank Lorenzo was a failure. Frank even took great carriers like Eastern and Frontier into the toilet. Use the toilet paper to wipe the brown off your mouths and move on.

CAL inherited all the baggage and will never get rid of it.

Uh...keep on beating it if it makes you feel better, but that horse died a long time ago...

 

[Colonel Savage]

All that from a guy whose user ID is luckytohaveajob.

Now that, that's funny!

 

[SSDD]

Curious! People Express has been dead since before the current crop of pilots were out of diapers. Skybus tried it and failed misserably. What brought this rant?

 

[NuGuy]

Uh...keep on beating it if it makes you feel better, but that horse died a long time ago...

That dog may be dead, but the tail still wags if what's going on at CAL right now is any indication...

Nu

 

[luckytohaveajob]

cut and paste out of the CAL FLU thread

Current CAL CP

[FONT=&quot]He didn’t come up with this nonsense on his own—it flows downhill from on high like everything else. Captain Stankovich is the original “Friend of Fred”. These two have been together since being new-hires at People Express. People Express: no First-Class—in either seating or operational philosophy, pilots throwing bags or cleaning airplanes on their days off, and no seniority as we know it (until PBS came along, that is). Stank knows his future is attached like an umbilical cord to the Vice President of Flight Operations. He has his office job, he receives director’s management bonuses, and he is allowed to fly past age-60 because he is a “Friend of Fred” Abbott. Lest you think our upper management is being given a clean bill of health on this, remember that flight ops management does not exist in a vacuum—they are what they are through the support of upper management—and this particular buck stops at Larry Kellner’s office.[/FONT]