PBS at Netjets?

[Dooker]

The thing I've found is that the being gone part ain't so great, but at least when I'm home, I'm really home. I don't have to worry about the phone or the Blackberry ringing non-stop, don't have to sit up late doing work like my wife (she's a schoolteacher ... always doing lesson plans or grading papers).

There's always gonna be trade-off's, no matter what you do. Unless you a pimp. Then it's all good.

 

[ozpilot]

On the last day, the only rule is they have to get you home within 14 hours of duty, and by midnight home-base time. If they don't get you home by midnight, they pay you a penalty of two extended days' pay (totaling about $642 under current contract; $937.50 under the TA). So they have a real financial incentive to get you home!

Hope that helps.

Right now you also have an option to stay on duty until they get you home. At $70 per hour for a 5 year Captain that gives them a real incentive to get your home! That goes away if IBB passes.

 

[CA1900]

Right now you also have an option to stay on duty until they get you home. At $70 per hour for a 5 year Captain that gives them a real incentive to get your home! That goes away if IBB passes.

On the flipside, the automatic double extended day goes away if IBB fails. That was a "try before you buy" LOA; we only "buy" it if we vote in the TA.

Which do you think is more likely: a realistically-scheduled after-midnight, or milking the overtime clock for 15+ hours? Under IBB, an after-midnight will pay a 5-year captain $1655.08.

This past year, I've had six realistically-scheduled after-midnights, and exactly one incidence where I was able to milk the overtime clock because they couldn't get me home that evening. I've made far, far more money on after-midnights.

 

[Guitar Guy]

And to chime in on some of what CA1900 has said, if you are returned after midnight (i.e. returned home on your first scheduled off day), you are given recovery time on the first day that you are next scheduled to work. The time is one-for-one up until noon. If you are returned after noon, the company must drop that entire first work day of your next tour.

So along with the money, the company has another incentive to get a pilot home as a late return impacts crew availability later in the month.

As for the 7/7, my wife really likes having me home for a week at a time and knowing what days I will or won't be home. It makes scheduling get-togethers and other events much easier. I used to think that being gone 7 days would be tough but it usually goes by pretty quickly, especially if you have a good partner to fly with.

 

[FLYLOW22]

How do guys handle the 7 off/on schedule. I have to say I have never done it before but that is about the only thing that turns me off about NJ. Obviously 7 off is nice but how do people with family's do it with the 7 on part?

Years ago when I started this whole adventure, I couldn't fathom how to even pack for a 7 day trip.

Now it's the norm.

It fels more like a 5 day trip with 2 days of NO STRESS commuting on either end (because you travel on a ticket).

Sometimes there is flying on the 1st or last day too...

Family life is fine from my perspective. I'm back for a straight 7 with no interuptions.

 

[gutshotdraw]

You can think about it this way too. You go out for SIX nights, then you're home for EIGHT nights. If you're lucky enough to live in a popular destination city as I do, sometimes you get to sleep in your own bed in the middle of a tour.

Bottom line, don't let 7 and 7 hang you up on whether to apply to Netjets....after your first vacation, you'll never want to go back to any other schedule.

 

[learflyer]

You rookies. It's not even hump day at flops until day 5! For you guys, it's day 3.5!

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

I, too, was worried about the 7 days in a row away from home being long.

But, then I remembered that I'm usually away from home more that 10 days, and it's on day 10 that I start really not liking it. I've been gone 20+ days LOTS of times. My longest two times (at my airline) were 31 and 32 days. 7 days sounds like a dream.

cliff
GRB

 

[gunfyter]

Very few people dislike 7 days on enough to bid another schedule choice.

 

[netjetwife]

...Obviously 7 off is nice but how do people with family's do it with the 7 on part?

My husband started out on the 17 day schedule (no longer used) and had shorter tours so I was worried that our family wouldn't like him being gone for 7 days. The adjustment was easier than I thought it would be. The 7&7 has the advantage of less airline travel for the pilots and fewer "daddy's leaving" days for the kids. We have 2 routines now instead of the more hectic lifestyle we had on the 17 day schedule.

GSD is right. 7 days of vacation gets you 21 duty free days--hard to beat! Even when a pilot isn't senior enough to get vacation during the summer, having 7 days off at a time means that a family can have lots of mini vacations while the kids are out of school. Good luck! NJW