Pay to fly plane for interview??

[lowtimeguy]

Was talking to the chief pilot of a flight school about a flight instructor job, and he said I would have to come fly with him 3 or 4 times, and I would have to pay for the plane rental. WTF??????

Could it even be a clever scam, run an ad and make the poor fools who interview pay, maybe no job is even available? Just a way to make money?

This would be with a military training school for cadets, part 141.

 

[minitour]

I can see it now:

"...oh thanks for coming and flying with me four times and spending X per hour, but I'm looking for someone that can wash my car...have a nice day"

I'd say skip it...if they want to fly with you, make them eat the cost...

JMHO
-mini

 

[flyifrvfr]

Was talking to the chief pilot of a flight school about a flight instructor job, and he said I would have to come fly with him 3 or 4 times, and I would have to pay for the plane rental. WTF??????

Could it even be a clever scam, run an ad and make the poor fools who interview pay, maybe no job is even available? Just a way to make money?

This would be with a military training school for cadets, part 141.

Is this the job at Lee Annapolis?

 

[lowtimeguy]

roger that

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Was talking to the chief pilot of a flight school about a flight instructor job, and he said I would have to come fly with him 3 or 4 times, and I would have to pay for the plane rental. WTF??????

Could it even be a clever scam, run an ad and make the poor fools who interview pay, maybe no job is even available? Just a way to make money?

This would be with a military training school for cadets, part 141.

this should tell you everything you need to know about working for this guy.

Way back when I was looking for CFI work they did not pay you for this "ride" but they CERTAINLY didnt charge you.....at least anyplace you wanted to work didnt.

 

[surplus1]

Sounds like this CP is trying to sell you some "dual", not give you an iterveiw.

I suggest you try another flight school.

 

[Boris Badenov]

Used to teach at a (different) flight school at Lee. Was decidedly unimpressed by the military flying club, personally. Paint peeling off planes, couple of crashes in the time I was there, and what I perceived to be a "bad attitude". Plus, this whole thing smells. Shop elsewhere, I say.

 

[Vik]

Its a scam. Stay away.

He needs to fly with you ONE time for less than an hour to figure out your flying skills. If he needs 3-4 sessions to figure it out, he needs to go get HIS flying skills evaluated.

Was talking to the chief pilot of a flight school about a flight instructor job, and he said I would have to come fly with him 3 or 4 times, and I would have to pay for the plane rental. WTF??????

Could it even be a clever scam, run an ad and make the poor fools who interview pay, maybe no job is even available? Just a way to make money?

This would be with a military training school for cadets, part 141.

 

[bobbysamd]

A different version of pay-for-interview

Was talking to the chief pilot of a flight school about a flight instructor job, and he said I would have to come fly with him 3 or 4 times, and I would have to pay for the plane rental.

I never heard of such a thing. I flew at five flight school interviews and paid not a penny. I agree wholeheartedly that they need only one flight to determine if you can fly. FlightSafety also ran me through a ground trainer session for instruments when I interviewed there, which was fine.

Pretty tacky. I gather you were told this beforehand; if I had been told that on arrival, no matter how much it cost me to come out for the interview, I would have walked right out!

This is bullsh!t. Sadly, pilots being what they are, some still will pay.

 

[wiggsfly]

Sounds a lot like these guys

http://www.palwaukee-flyers.com/

(there is a thread on them somewhere, but I'm too lazy to find it this morning)

I know of people who have taken as much as 10 hours of dual to instruct in their POS Sundowners

 

[satpak77]

sounds like the $500 "processing fee" for those jobs online from Nigeria

what a deal! Advertise a bogus job online (G-V copilot, 1500 TT required) that everyone desires and then charge $500 bucks to "intake" the application

put it online (Flightinfo has 17,500 members) on multiple sites, see what happens.

5% of Flightinfo responds, 850 X $500 = $425,000

Hell 1% respond (meaning 99% tell me to have sexual relations with myself and indicating "failure" of my scam) still means $87,500

pretty good score no?

ahhh, aviation

 

[zuka]

Once I interviewed with a flight school where they ate the costs for 3-4 flights to check me out in all the planes, and show me how they want things done. But I had to pay them back for the costs if I didn't stay for 6 months. I thought that was quite fair.

My first flight instructor job I had to pay for the cost of a checkout which I should not have done, but I didn't have any other options at the time. Finding a flight instructor job with zero dual given at a school you didn't train at is hard to do.

I also Interviewed for a banner tow job once where they paid the cost of the eval flight. I was offered the job but didn't take it because the operation seemed a little too sketchy. I felt a little guilty for wasting their dime so I sent them a christmas card

 

[Lead Sled]

Was talking to the chief pilot of a flight school about a flight instructor job, and he said I would have to come fly with him 3 or 4 times, and I would have to pay for the plane rental.

Personally, I'd jump at the chance to fly with that guy. I'd tell him that it's ok with you if he charges you for the airplane; but you've also got a policy to charge for dual in cases like this. (Cash, up front.) I'd charge him about $100 an hour for your time - both ground and flight. Make sure you get enough to cover the airplane expenses and to pay yourself say $25 for your time. I'd love to see the expression on his face as you walked out.

The guy's a jerk. There are some real bozos in aviation. You have just met one. (Him, not me. )

'Sled

 

[minitour]

Lead:

Thanks for the pointer there...I'm almost kind of anxious to meet someone like that just so I can pull that on him. Phatty-o!

-mini

 

[Thedude]

Its a scam. Stay away.

He needs to fly with you ONE time for less than an hour to figure out your flying skills. If he needs 3-4 sessions to figure it out, he needs to go get HIS flying skills evaluated.

I agree with that one...totally

 

[millhouse21]

Right after I got out of the Navy and was desperately looking for a job (any job!) flying, I instructed at a flight school in FL that was mostly doing Navy IFS training. They made me pay for the aircraft rental for the checkout although it was just 1 flight. About 3 months later one of the IFS students while on a solo x ctry had an engine failure in the pattern and died. The school doesn't do IFS training anymore.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20021010X05302&key=1

I'd stay away from this unless you really can't find anything else.

 

[prpjt]

Originally Posted by lowtimeguy
Was talking to the chief pilot of a flight school about a flight instructor job, and he said I would have to come fly with him 3 or 4 times, and I would have to pay for the plane rental.


WOW! About 15 years ago the FAA could evaluate you for an initial CFI in 1 flight and a few hours of conversation. Take it for what it is. You met a questionable school operator....... put it in your memory bank............and move on.