Pay Scales Question

[2EASYPilot]

I am not sure what your equipment is but the Stanton survey is the most widely recognized source for compensation...maybe someone here operates similar equipment. Give us a heads up what your flying and maybe we can help with the numbers at least.

 

[hoover]

In the airline world, where an airplane is used to make money, the pay should absolutely be tied to the productiveness and the complexity of the job. For example an international 747 generates more revenue, and is probably a more demanding operation, than a domestic 737. Pilot pay should be based appropriately.

On the other hand, the corporate aircraft is more of a business tool. In and of itself it does not make money, but rather, it enables its users to be more productive. In that realm I think pay should be more tied to how the airplane is operated rather than how big it is or how many people it carries. In other words, pay should be based on where, when, and how often the pilot flies, pilot non-flying duties, how often the pilot lays over away from home, etc.

IMHO

 

[GEXDriver]

...the corporate aircraft is more of a business tool. In and of itself it does not make money, but rather, it enables its users to be more productive. In that realm I think pay should be more tied to how the airplane is operated rather than how big it is or how many people it carries. In other words, pay should be based on where, when, and how often the pilot flies, pilot non-flying duties, how often the pilot lays over away from home, etc.

IMHO

Fortunately, that is not how corporate compensation is determined. Some of the pilots I know that fly the least get paid the most. The one thing they all have in common is that the larger and more expensive the aircraft, the more they're paid. And by the way, I'm really glad that you have nothing to do with setting my salary.

 

[hoover]

Fortunately, that is not how corporate compensation is determined. Some of the pilots I know that fly the least get paid the most. The one thing they all have in common is that the larger and more expensive the aircraft, the more they're paid. And by the way, I'm really glad that you have nothing to do with setting my salary.

Just my opinion, nothing more. And by the way, that makes two of us.

 

[GVFlyer]

And by the way, I'm really glad that you have nothing to do with setting my salary.

And by the way, that makes two of us.

Just trying to figure out the logic of your last post. If you were setting GEXDriver's salary, you would be the Aviation Director of a Fortune 50 company, which most would consider a desirable position. Yet, you wouldn't want it?

After reading some of your posts, my real question is what do you fly and where are you in your career? You don't seem to realize that pilots from major flight departments like Pfizer, Proctor & Gamble and 3M retire millionaires.

GV

 

[Big Picture]

Folks, thanks a lot for all the good responses.

I spoke with my boss again yesterday. He "explained" to me how much money the company had invested in me after two type ratings and how I would "eventually" get to the numbers I wanted. He reiterated how unrealistic the NBAA numbers are. He said that he would have no problem finding another captain at my current salary. He said a couple of other things and then sugar-coated the whole thing by saying how happy he was with my performance. Whatever.

This job definitely has some things going for it but not enough IMO to justify "eventually" getting paid what I should be getting paid today. It's not the solution I was looking for, but I think I'll be sending out some resumes.

Thanks again for everyone's help.

 

[GVFlyer]

... but I think I'll be sending out some resumes.

Get some time in type first...

GV

 

[Big Picture]

Absolutely. It will take me a while to update logbooks and the resume so it shouldn't be a problem.

Thanks,
BP

 

[hoover]

Just trying to figure out the logic of your last post. If you were setting GEXDriver's salary, you would be the Aviation Director of a Fortune 50 company, which most would consider a desirable position. Yet, you wouldn't want it?

After reading some of your posts, my real question is what do you fly and where are you in your career? You don't seem to realize that pilots from major flight departments like Pfizer, Proctor & Gamble and 3M retire millionaires.

GV

I guess I just tend to look at the overall employment situation, rather than simply "How big is the airplane." For example, were someone to offer me a job flying a G4 that strictly did out and back day trips, no flying on weekends or holidays and no extra duties on non-flying days, I might be willing to work for less than if I were offered a job flying a Challenger that required me to work R.O.N.s weekends and holidays, and to clean the aircraft on my non-flying days.