pay for job negatives?

[AC560]

A Bic pen is a lot cheaper then paying for training if your looking for short cuts in life.

 

[FN FAL]

A Bic pen is a lot cheaper then paying for training if your looking for short cuts in life.

All the more reason for airlines to build one of these puppies into the conference room where they hold their interviews. You don't have to hook it up to a person like you do with a polygraph, all you have to do is place the microphone where it can clearly pick up the applicants voice.

MILWAUKEE - More than 50 Wisconsin law enforcement agencies have begun to rely on a voice analysis system as an investigative tool to detect lies, while other agencies argue the analyzer is no more accurate than a coin flip.

The system works by measuring tremors and stress through voice vibrations. Advocates say the analyzer is a cheaper, faster alternative to the polygraph, which records blood pressure, breathing and sweat. But opponents say the technology is unproven and reliable.

Police in Oak Creek credit the technology with their successful investigation of a March 15 double homicide in which two people were beaten to death with baseball bats. The suspect agreed to take the voice stress analyzer test, whose results suggested he was being deceptive. That wasn't conclusive by itself but the results helped detectives focus on him as the main suspect, police said.

"I think there was some doubt in people's minds that we had the right person. After we gave him the test, we got back on track and said, 'This is the right guy. Let's keep going,"' said Oak Creek detective Lt. John Edwards.

Daniel Kohlman, 38, of Franklin, was charged in late March with two counts of first-degree intentional homicide in the deaths of Margaret Meyer, 51, and Earl Meyer, 25. Lawyers entered a plea of not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect on his behalf March 28.

About 1,400 law enforcement agencies nationwide use the technology. The analyzer costs $13,069, including training, compared with $25,150 for the polygraph, according to National Institute for Truth Verification, the Florida-based firm that developed the voice stress device...

...But Cudahy Detective Dala Milosavljevic said the device has helped his department investigate cases ranging from thefts to homicides since 1998.

"I love it. If it could cook, I'd take it home with me," he said.

The Milwaukee Police Department has used polygraphs for about 30 years and may consider voice stress equipment in the future, said Brian O'Keefe, the deputy chief.

"I don't think there's anybody saying that the polygraph or voice stress analysis is going to be 100 percent accurate all the time," he said. "You can't go into court with either one of them."

 

[EMB Skillz]

You know, it just doesn't matter anymore. There is a name for all of the PFT guys who upgrade at the regionals and other airlines: Captain.

Mom and Pop's flight school with the Rent-A-Seminole just can't compete with 121 turboprop training. They are paying for education and some practical experience, its not like they are direct-entry captains at American. I will feel much safer having a new-hire FO with prior 121 training and flight time than with some MEI.

If I had to do it all over again, I would go to GIA. I stand by my previous statement, the cowards don't have the ballz to trash talk GIA pilots in real life. In reality, the bitter people are going to be the ones who ended up junior because they took too long to build flight time. Time = Money....spend a little now and earn a lot more later. There is nothing ethically wrong with going there.

Those guys got SKILLZ!

 

[VSI9k+]

Its always nice to fly with a captian that has no clue what they are doing...usually they are the ones that paid for time. you can learn a lot from someone that has no desire to teach you anything. the guy in the left seat gets paid the same if you are there...or arent. he wants you to open the door...and maybe get the clearance if you are lucky. if you are trained by those guys...you will make a great captian.

 

[GotnoTime]

pay to fly is the biggest bs Ive ever seen thats just someone trying to make a buck at your expense you will learn nothing but youll be able to log it. if you want to prove to yourself that you can be a better pilot get in the trenches and just do it yourself the experience will stay with you forever good or bad

 

[dardar]

You guys have never experienced it and yet you know everything on the subject. I did PFJ. Some of the guys I flew with wouldn't let me do anything, that is true, but there were two guys that would just fall asleep and let me do everything. Is this responsible of them? No, but it was great experience for me.

It was good experience for me. Expensive, yes, but cheaper than going to Ari-Ben or someplace like that. Of course, if I had to do it all over again, I've learned of some 135 places that would have let me fly their twins with the little Multi time I had.