Passenger numbers to nearly double by 2032, FAA predicts

[HalinTexas]

Revenue seat miles have done nothing but go up for decades now with only a small recession after 9/11 but quickly recovered after a few quarters.... I've seen many graphs but would have to search a while to dig one up until I get home.

Is RPMs what this article about?

We all know passengers counts are up, but have they matched predictions?

And, yes, I like facts. Clear, concise, accurate facts.

If you look at it not all that closely, the growth is in Latin America and Asia, so that's where most of the pilot jobs, as well as passengers are coming (going) from.

 

[General Lee]

Is RPMs what this article about?

We all know passengers counts are up, but have they matched predictions?

And, yes, I like facts. Clear, concise, accurate facts.

If you look at it not all that closely, the growth is in Latin America and Asia, so that's where most of the pilot jobs, as well as passengers are coming (going) from.

You're right. When one area crumbles (Europe), others can open up. It takes a nimble airline without eggs all in one basket to survive. We have shrunk Europe capacity by 8% I believe for the Summer, but have added flights to Asia, and we are eying a lot more of Latin and South America. Airlines based in Europe are really hurting, like AF/KL and LH. BA will likely do ok this Summer because of the London Olympics, where they can keep fares high and probably get demand anyway.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Flybywire44]

Yeah, based on current trends... but the current trends won't continue—ie supply and demand for fuel will keep these figues in check.

If this is remotely true than regionals should be gone in no time—protect your scope folks!

 

[scoreboardII]

I hate to interject fact...

Article is total BS.

At least for the US.

Look at this link, US passenger count has been flat since the 90's, more so since 1999.

http://www.bts.gov/publications/national_transportation_statistics/html/table_01_37.html


13 and more years of carrying the same passenger numbers, is that a success story?

No.

Look at the chart from 1975 to 1999, air passenger count tripled in 14 years. Thats growth.

The charts even show Large hubs have been flat and medium hubs have collapsed since the 90's, the only true growth has been at non-hubs, ie, LCC's.

We are in the sunset of a great industry, sort of like what happened to the Pony Express riders. We are being overcome by events. Adapt or die.

China/India may be the next boom, but not here.

Lets assume for one drug induced moment that the article is correct. Just where will all these jets be flying to and from, which airports will grow by double? LAX? ORD? LGA? Hardly. Who will have the money to buy a ticket when we have $150 barrel of oil.


What gives the FAA the right to spill these lies?

Oh....

This is propaganda at it's finest from the current pie in the sky, no tax to high, no entitlement to costly administration.

 

[scoreboardII]

Another tidbit from Gary K's message to the field:

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As a group, todays legacy carriers fly 35 percent fewer seats than they did ten years ago  instead, Southwest Airlines fleet has doubled.

Now, the important part isn't that SWA grew, it's that the other legacies gave up 35% of their hard earned market with narry a wimper.

What business can last when they shed 35% of their market? None I say, and any company not growing, is by definition failing.

This industry has been failing for 15 years.

Adapt or die.

 

[screech]

Article is total BS.

At least for the US.

Look at this link, US passenger count has been flat since the 90's, more so since 1999.

http://www.bts.gov/publications/national_transportation_statistics/html/table_01_37.html


13 and more years of carrying the same passenger numbers, is that a success story?

No.

Look at the chart from 1975 to 1999, air passenger count tripled in 14 years. Thats growth.

The charts even show Large hubs have been flat and medium hubs have collapsed since the 90's, the only true growth has been at non-hubs, ie, LCC's.

We are in the sunset of a great industry, sort of like what happened to the Pony Express riders. We are being overcome by events. Adapt or die.

China/India may be the next boom, but not here.

Lets assume for one drug induced moment that the article is correct. Just where will all these jets be flying to and from, which airports will grow by double? LAX? ORD? LGA? Hardly. Who will have the money to buy a ticket when we have $150 barrel of oil.


What gives the FAA the right to spill these lies?

Oh....

This is propaganda at it's finest from the current pie in the sky, no tax to high, no entitlement to costly administration.

Dude, 1975-1999 is 24 years not 14.

 

[scoreboardII]

nice catch, so they only tripled in 24 years... vs stagnant and in some cases shrinking for last 10-15

 

[HA25]

lies lies and more lies.....

 

[Bake]

All of you are full of bull, ball bearings, it's all ball bearings these days.

 

[fullsail]

Not to mention, the geezers will have pushed retirement age to 75 by then....

 

[scoreboardII]

Damn skippy, we have to make a living after having ours stolen by the current round of old geazers.



Sarcasm device, off.