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Hoping carrier benefits take off
The port authority could have a broader role in future Valley ventures

Published: Mon, Jun 27, 2005

VIENNA — Gaining a passenger carrier allows the Youngstown-Warren Regional Airport to begin reaching the 6.8 million people within 90 minutes' travel time who have been flying from other airports, predominantly in Cleveland and Pittsburgh.

That was a goal of the marketing push begun in January by the Western Reserve Port Authority, which runs the airport. Now, it has brought a new passenger airline to the airport.

Boston-Maine Airways' Pan Am Clipper Connection was to announce today that it's making a commitment to serve a 10-county market in Northeast Ohio and western Pennsylvania starting this fall. Boston-Maine has a fleet of 21 727 jet airliners and 20 Jetstream regional-type aircraft.

The airline's commitment "is one to be treated with great respect, gratitude and care," said Steve Bowser, the airport's director of aviation. "Our No. 1 priority is to secure Pan Am Clipper Connection and its future, and build upon this partnership."

Bowser said a successful endeavor by the airline will allow the carrier to broaden its scope of service in the Mahoning Valley — if the community's support warrants continued investment for growth.

"Pan Am has become more than an airline to us," he said. "These Pan Am professionals are going to be instrumental in the renaissance of our region."


Current destinations

Youngstown-Warren would be worked into the airline's existing routes. Its destinations are Boston/Portsmouth, N.H.; Trenton, N.J.; Newburgh, N.Y.; Columbus; Orlando/Sanford, Fla.; Clearwater/St. Petersburg, Fla.; San Juan and Aguadilla, Puerto Rico; and Punta Cana and Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic.

Another part of the port authority's marketing — which uses the slogan "The Sky's the Limit" — involves bringing together similar regional airports across the nation to form a consortium for marketing travel routes.

Chuck Johnson, a former Eastern Airlines and US Airways pilot now working on the airport's marketing with Rubenstein Associates of Liberty, said commercial aviation's future lies in the joint efforts of discount airlines and regional airports.

"The largest metropolitan airports are overcrowded, parking is costly, wait times are often outrageous, security is a lengthy process, and travel times and access are difficult," he said.


Selling points

The Vienna airport offers 1,400 acres, a $1 million secure holding area built about six years ago, the longest runway in Northeast Ohio, a tower that's always open, military-quality fire and rescue service, and the ability to accept any size of aircraft in the world, officials said.

It needs to bring people through its gates on a regular basis to retain $1 million in annual Federal Aviation Administration funding, which is used to maintain the $40 million in improvements made there, 10 percent of which were locally funded.

The Trumbull 100 group of 80 Warren business leaders early this year contributed $30,000 to hire Rubenstein Associates and to augment a $250,000 federal Small Community Air Services grant to attract and promote a carrier. Along with airline services, the port authority's marketing effort is targeting partnerships with cargo carriers and freight forwarders, allied industries, manufacturers and aircraft assembly companies.

State Sen. Marc Dann of Liberty, D-32nd, has suggested that the Western Reserve Port Authority could take over marketing and tourism efforts for the entire Mahoning Valley.


Bi-county cooperation

Dann envisions the port authority using both counties' lodging tax proceeds and having a supervisory position over five subdivisions or commissions: tourism advisory, airport and community marketing advisory, film advisory, technical-education-work force development and military growth advisory.

Such two-county promotion and marketing plans have surfaced occasionally since the mid-1980s, but counties generally have been reluctant to give up their identities to a joint venture. The new twist here would be that the port authority operates across two counties. The port authority has become involved in cross-county efforts such as the Mahoning River cleanup, foreign trade zones and enterprise zones.

A law pushed through the state Legislature last year by Dann now permits the two counties to use lodging tax money to fund the Youngstown-Warren Regional Airport.

http://www.vindy.com/basic/news/283632393014861.php

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I may make my site more of an airport informational site if you all support it!


VIDEO FROM 33 NEWS: http://images.bimedia.net/video/PanAM_WYTV_HI.wmv?c=y&host=images.bimedia.net
 
FLAMEBAIT!!!!!

That is a SCAB outfit, they took the PanAm pilots' jobs after management furloughed the entire ALPA pilot group. Seeing their 727's in San Juan makes me want to puke. They don't deserve to use the PanAm name.


Bitter877
 
I am happy for Youngstown Airport to get an airline and got off the hook!

This could soon become the MIDWEST Of PAN AM Clipper Connection
 
Pilot877 said:
FLAMEBAIT!!!!!

That is a SCAB outfit, they took the PanAm pilots' jobs after management furloughed the entire ALPA pilot group. Seeing their 727's in San Juan makes me want to puke. They don't deserve to use the PanAm name.


Bitter877

How is this "Flamebait"?. . This is something that is going to happen (for a short amount of time) regardless of the fuk$ed up management tactics that this outfit has employed in recent times. Flamebait would mean that this is merely fiction which if you read the above you would see is not the case. This will not last, YNG has been plagued by extremely bad management for years and here is merely just another example. I don't even think this will last as long as Vacation Express which was a complete flop from the get-go. YNG is too close to CAK and will never be able to generate the pax traffic that CAK attracts. If it wasn't for the air base YNG would not be able to exist. The airport is nothing more than a shell of what it once was. Even the 91/135 market is not what it once was when the steel mills were booming and times were good.

Could this be Harshman who started this thread?. If so, I sure hope the expected buyout with BM&C allows you to fly that Malibu often and frequently. Would be a pain not to be able to get those groceries at the Jewish store up in Erie if this is taking too much of your time up.
 
Juan T. has been rolling in his grave ever since the Junkstream "Clippers" have been flying around the N.E....... :rolleyes:

You'd think that someone would be able to make money with the second most recognized trademark in the world, without resorting to hiring scabs......
 
Remember, Pan Am Clipper Connection is Boston-Maine Airways operating out of Portsmouth, NH. Do a search on them and you will find mountains of info on them. They are run by the same management of Pan Am, which was shutdown last Oct . Pan Am is still on the logo of the fuselage, confusing from a distance unless you get close up and se the Clipper Connection and/or Boston Maine logo on them.

They never stay in a market long. They may stay in a month or two, decide the trafic is not good enough,and then pull out overnight with no warning and stiffing the airport with unpaid bills. They can never come back to that airport cuase they owe tons of money. Example, Gary, In, Mid America, St. Louis, Hartford, , Newark. The list goes on and on.

The schedules are not reliable. Frequent delays because of not enough airplanes or crews, etc. 3 planes now trying to run a 5 airplane schedule. Tons of airplanes sitting around in Portsmouth and Sanford, FL but no money to get them flying, nor will the DOT give them permission to increase their fleet.

Enjoy
 
Roughair,


It amazes me that there are 3 or 4 Go Jet threads, and the aviation community seems to have forgotten what happened at BMA. It is twice as worse as any Go Jet scenario, they succeded in busting the union. Would someone please move this thread to the Regional or majors forum?
 
RA,

Either way you look at what will be a short term agreement this ain't getting YNG very far. . . I feel sorry for the folks in the area but this surely is no answer for the economically troubled community.
 

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