Thanks for the reply. Let me state that I am not trying to "short cut" the process and am a very competent pilot for the low hours I have. What I am trying to do is to find a path that is not a "pipe dream" but has a real chance of getting a flying job when I finish. I know that there are lots of ways to build hours and ratings, but since I don't have any connections or a lot of money, I want a school that will strengthen my chances of making my transition from a decent paying career to a pilot job as painlessly as possible. I consider this just doing my homework and due diligence given my circumstances as there are many schools out there that are desperate for students and will tell them just about anything to get them to enroll. I don't want to be one of them that ends up disillusioned with $60K in debt and very few chances of getting a pilot job and struggling just to get by.
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You sound like you have the right attitude... With that...
Any school will do, from the local FBO to these slick 141 mills, to the college courses with a flight school attached.
In short.. at the completion of your commercial you are basically the SAME as every othe commercial pilot with 225-250 hours of time. Maybe those ATP guys have a argument with most of thiers being ME though.
The same is true for those with 500 hrs.. they are all about EQUAL. The differences are after that time frame and how and where you get your time... Is it all burning holes in the sky in a 152 trying not to have that student try to kill you to flying the canyon to banners to pipeline or whatever.
There is no guaranteed or even "suggested" way to get a job. Most of getting a job and making ends meet is being at the right time at the right place, or having made that "connection" years ago, or through networking you way into that first, second or even "dream" job.
You sound like you have the right attitude... With that...
Any school will do, from the local FBO to these slick 141 mills, to the college courses with a flight school attached.
In short.. at the completion of your commercial you are basically the SAME as every othe commercial pilot with 225-250 hours of time. Maybe those ATP guys have a argument with most of thiers being ME though.
The same is true for those with 500 hrs.. they are all about EQUAL. The differences are after that time frame and how and where you get your time... Is it all burning holes in the sky in a 152 trying not to have that student try to kill you to flying the canyon to banners to pipeline or whatever.
There is no guaranteed or even "suggested" way to get a job. Most of getting a job and making ends meet is being at the right time at the right place, or having made that "connection" years ago, or through networking you way into that first, second or even "dream" job.
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Trash480,
I too live in Phoenix and thought the same thing. Do not go to Pan AM unless you want to lose 70 grand. Yes that is the average. Out of a new class in 2001 of 20 people only about 6 are still there. They took the max loan amount and after doing the ace program all of them had to get other loans for their flight instructor certificates. The reason is, Pan Am fails you on one little minor thing on a stage check,and no it not because of breaking a FAR. That is the way they make more money. The ad that they place in the magazine is BS because not one person who has graduated from ace has went to an airline yet! I am not disgruntled, I just dont want to see anyone lose money like I did. I work at mesa as a ramper and nearly all the fo's and captains are from san juan. I will be graduating from Embry Riddle in April and hope to be going to their PACE program. Any more questions PM me
Trash480,
I too live in Phoenix and thought the same thing. Do not go to Pan AM unless you want to lose 70 grand. Yes that is the average. Out of a new class in 2001 of 20 people only about 6 are still there. They took the max loan amount and after doing the ace program all of them had to get other loans for their flight instructor certificates. The reason is, Pan Am fails you on one little minor thing on a stage check,and no it not because of breaking a FAR. That is the way they make more money. The ad that they place in the magazine is BS because not one person who has graduated from ace has went to an airline yet! I am not disgruntled, I just dont want to see anyone lose money like I did. I work at mesa as a ramper and nearly all the fo's and captains are from san juan. I will be graduating from Embry Riddle in April and hope to be going to their PACE program. Any more questions PM me
airwinger said:
Well, if your talking about the Phoenix campus you are mistaken. A couple people have gone to the airlines that took the ACE program, even more if you count Airnet as an airline. In fact, another ACE grad today found out that he'd been hired by an airline. I'm not trying to recommend Pan Am or pick a fight, but am trying to correct untrue information.
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