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Another Island Competitor (Lurking)
Inventor May Hit Turbulence Starting New Hawaiian Regional
2005-11-21 (New York)
The inventor of the DigEplayer wants to transform a two-plane
Part 135 charter operator in Hawaii into a scheduled carrier flying 10
Piper Chieftains around the islands.
Bill Boyer, the former ramp attendant at Alaska Air [ALK] who
invented the portable video player that is appearing on many airlines
as an inexpensive alternative to live TV programming, purchased on Oct.
1 Mokulele Flight Service, based in Kialua-Kona, Hawaii. On Nov. 7,
Boyer filed an application with the U.S. Department of Transportation
(DOT) for a certificate to operate a scheduled airline providing inter-
island travel.
Boyer and his partner, James Walden, formerly an attorney in the
Seattle area, are the second party to take steps to launch a new
regional carrier in the islands. In October, Mesa Air Group [MESA]
announced plans to form a separate unit, which would fly regional jets
on the heavily traveled inter-island routes (RAN, Oct. 3; Oct. 31).
Four commercial carriers currently serve the islands: Aloha
Airlines, Hawaiian Airlines [HA], Island Air and Pacific Wings.
Walden told Regional Aviation News that Mokulele would compete
head-to-head with Pacific Wings on nearly every one of its routes.
Mokulele faces a major obstacle before its takes to the air - a
non-compete agreement Boyer signed with Pacific Wings on March 3.
Convinced that Boyer's plans for Mokulele violates the
agreement, Pacific Wings president Greg * has turned the matter
over to Washington, D.C., attorneys Patton & Boggs to determine his
next step. Pacific Wings may file suit to stop Mokulele, * told
Regional Aviation News, or at least file an objection with DOT against
Mokulele's application.
Walden had expressed confidence that his application would gain
quick DOT approval so that Mokulele could begin flying by Jan. 1.
Walden could not be reached for further comment.
* said that Boyer last spring offered to buy Pacific
Wings. When the overture was rebuffed, Boyer detailed his plan to fly
used 50-seat RJs in the Hawaiian market under the Pacific Wings livery.
So that they could discuss a potential venture, * insisted that
Boyer sign a confidentiality and non-compete pact, which he allegedly
did. Over the summer, * said, he freely disclosed his carrier's
trade secrets.
"Our 17 secret herbs and spices were in a PowerPoint
presentation and I gave it to [Boyer] after they signed a three-page
agreement," * said. "I sent him a route map with proposed jet
and Caravan routes."
While * said he did not shut the door on the venture,
the next thing he heard was that Boyer purchased Mokulele, a charter
and tour operator founded in 1999 by Rebecca Inaba. According to the
DOT filing, Inaba will remain with the firm. * doubts that the Hawaiian inter-island market can support two new operators. Walden and Greg Stevens, the chief operating officer of the yet-to-be named Mesa unit, both contend there are growth opportunities for all in the 50th state.
Mokulele now has two Chieftains, but Walden said it has enough
business that it could handle eight to 10 aircraft. Mokulele will fly
its initial routes from Kona to Honolulu and Kahului. By March 1,
Mokulele will have service to 10 airports within the islands. Most
destinations will be served with three or four daily round trips.
Mokulele is currently flying two leased Chieftains. There are
four more leased Chieftains en route to Hawaii from the mainland, which
have been painted in the Mokulele livery. Walden would like the carrier
to have 10 planes on duty with four more in reserve for maintenance
periods. "The Chieftain is the least expensive aircraft we can lease
for that size," he added.
With the 9-seat Chieftains, Mokulele would be able to service
airports that Island Air and Mesa will not be able to with their larger
aircraft.
"We see Wings as our primary competition. Most, if not all, the
routes will overlap. We think we can offer a better product. We will
offer the seats for 20 to 30 percent less than what they do. We think
we can be profitable and continue those types of fares throughout the
islands," Walden said, noting the charter operator is now profitable.
"Island Air already undercuts Pacific Wings' fare by two-
thirds," * said. "We have held the line on price. The people
who fly Pacific Wings are not flying on price. "
>>DOT Docket: OST-05-22935. Contacts: James Walden, Mokulele,
(808) 756-0395; Greg * Pacific Wings, (808) 873-0877; Greg
Stevens, Mesa, (316) 944-2511.<<
FOR MORE INFORMATION on this or any other story from Regional Aviation
News, November 21, 2005,
Inventor May Hit Turbulence Starting New Hawaiian Regional
2005-11-21 (New York)
The inventor of the DigEplayer wants to transform a two-plane
Part 135 charter operator in Hawaii into a scheduled carrier flying 10
Piper Chieftains around the islands.
Bill Boyer, the former ramp attendant at Alaska Air [ALK] who
invented the portable video player that is appearing on many airlines
as an inexpensive alternative to live TV programming, purchased on Oct.
1 Mokulele Flight Service, based in Kialua-Kona, Hawaii. On Nov. 7,
Boyer filed an application with the U.S. Department of Transportation
(DOT) for a certificate to operate a scheduled airline providing inter-
island travel.
Boyer and his partner, James Walden, formerly an attorney in the
Seattle area, are the second party to take steps to launch a new
regional carrier in the islands. In October, Mesa Air Group [MESA]
announced plans to form a separate unit, which would fly regional jets
on the heavily traveled inter-island routes (RAN, Oct. 3; Oct. 31).
Four commercial carriers currently serve the islands: Aloha
Airlines, Hawaiian Airlines [HA], Island Air and Pacific Wings.
Walden told Regional Aviation News that Mokulele would compete
head-to-head with Pacific Wings on nearly every one of its routes.
Mokulele faces a major obstacle before its takes to the air - a
non-compete agreement Boyer signed with Pacific Wings on March 3.
Convinced that Boyer's plans for Mokulele violates the
agreement, Pacific Wings president Greg * has turned the matter
over to Washington, D.C., attorneys Patton & Boggs to determine his
next step. Pacific Wings may file suit to stop Mokulele, * told
Regional Aviation News, or at least file an objection with DOT against
Mokulele's application.
Walden had expressed confidence that his application would gain
quick DOT approval so that Mokulele could begin flying by Jan. 1.
Walden could not be reached for further comment.
* said that Boyer last spring offered to buy Pacific
Wings. When the overture was rebuffed, Boyer detailed his plan to fly
used 50-seat RJs in the Hawaiian market under the Pacific Wings livery.
So that they could discuss a potential venture, * insisted that
Boyer sign a confidentiality and non-compete pact, which he allegedly
did. Over the summer, * said, he freely disclosed his carrier's
trade secrets.
"Our 17 secret herbs and spices were in a PowerPoint
presentation and I gave it to [Boyer] after they signed a three-page
agreement," * said. "I sent him a route map with proposed jet
and Caravan routes."
While * said he did not shut the door on the venture,
the next thing he heard was that Boyer purchased Mokulele, a charter
and tour operator founded in 1999 by Rebecca Inaba. According to the
DOT filing, Inaba will remain with the firm. * doubts that the Hawaiian inter-island market can support two new operators. Walden and Greg Stevens, the chief operating officer of the yet-to-be named Mesa unit, both contend there are growth opportunities for all in the 50th state.
Mokulele now has two Chieftains, but Walden said it has enough
business that it could handle eight to 10 aircraft. Mokulele will fly
its initial routes from Kona to Honolulu and Kahului. By March 1,
Mokulele will have service to 10 airports within the islands. Most
destinations will be served with three or four daily round trips.
Mokulele is currently flying two leased Chieftains. There are
four more leased Chieftains en route to Hawaii from the mainland, which
have been painted in the Mokulele livery. Walden would like the carrier
to have 10 planes on duty with four more in reserve for maintenance
periods. "The Chieftain is the least expensive aircraft we can lease
for that size," he added.
With the 9-seat Chieftains, Mokulele would be able to service
airports that Island Air and Mesa will not be able to with their larger
aircraft.
"We see Wings as our primary competition. Most, if not all, the
routes will overlap. We think we can offer a better product. We will
offer the seats for 20 to 30 percent less than what they do. We think
we can be profitable and continue those types of fares throughout the
islands," Walden said, noting the charter operator is now profitable.
"Island Air already undercuts Pacific Wings' fare by two-
thirds," * said. "We have held the line on price. The people
who fly Pacific Wings are not flying on price. "
>>DOT Docket: OST-05-22935. Contacts: James Walden, Mokulele,
(808) 756-0395; Greg * Pacific Wings, (808) 873-0877; Greg
Stevens, Mesa, (316) 944-2511.<<
FOR MORE INFORMATION on this or any other story from Regional Aviation
News, November 21, 2005,
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skydivinguy
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here we go again!
PW is a good place for low time pilots to gain flying experience. If you go there with your eyes open and know what is expected of you, you will do fine.
The guy that was my roommate is now flying Lears in the midwest.
There are sour grapes at any organization.
We'll see what happens when (and if) Mokolele gets signed off for scheduled service. However, I'm not in a hurry to pack my bags just yet.
As for landing in Hana on rainy days, we have "smart Caravans" with a rather elaborate laser guidance system and minature submarines stationed off the coast to point the lasers......lol!
PW is a good place for low time pilots to gain flying experience. If you go there with your eyes open and know what is expected of you, you will do fine.
The guy that was my roommate is now flying Lears in the midwest.
There are sour grapes at any organization.
We'll see what happens when (and if) Mokolele gets signed off for scheduled service. However, I'm not in a hurry to pack my bags just yet.
As for landing in Hana on rainy days, we have "smart Caravans" with a rather elaborate laser guidance system and minature submarines stationed off the coast to point the lasers......lol!
RJP
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Whatever.
NO. It's not a good place for anyone. Do your homework, read this site and you'll realize that only a few guys go there and leave unscathed. Everyone else is constantly in fear of getting fired, gets fired or threatened to be fired. If it were a good place to go, people wouldn't be in such a rush to leave. Any job that comes with a caveat like "If you go there with your eyes open and know what's expected of you, you will do fine." is not the type of business you want to work for.skydivinguy said:
That's great. He made it out and found another job. How many pilots has greg hounded and prevented from getting another job after PW? How many were fired after putting in their two weeks notice? Best of all, how many were sad to leave when they got another job? Anyone?skydivinguy said:
True. Just not to the extent of PW.skydivinguy said:
Greg told WP to pack our bags because of Mesa. You don't think he's got his duffel packed yet?skydivinguy said:
Good one!skydivinguy said:
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