Overview of NetJets TA

[Apilot]

Odd question:

First off congrats, I hope it passes, glad its overwith.

In the current agreement from 1998, are the hiring mins set in there, or is that the companys discression?

And has that changed in the new agreement?

 

[Hawk Driver]

Odd question:

First off congrats, I hope it passes, glad its overwith.

In the current agreement from 1998, are the hiring mins set in there, or is that the companys discression?

And has that changed in the new agreement?

The mins are set by NJA and there is no mention in the T/A. The numbers are hard and fast, no exceptions.

HD

 

[RJET]

So for new hires that get hired after the TA is ratified, the company will assign you a domicile, get the company change it after that?

It sounds that this will affect the new hires plus the bottom 30% pilot group. When will the company let you know of the domicile?
Thanks guys

 

[LR45JI]

I just left Netjets - 28 days ago and wish you guys the best!!

I have to admit that it stings a little to know that I put up with all the crap for 4-years and don't have anything to show for it (i.e. 40K) but am proud to say I walked the line with my brothers in DAL even after I resigned my position.

Hope things work out for everyone

 

[Grizz]

I just left Netjets - 28 days ago and wish you guys the best!!

I have to admit that it stings a little to know that I put up with all the crap for 4-years and don't have anything to show for it (i.e. 40K) but am proud to say I walked the line with my brothers in DAL even after I resigned my position.

Hope things work out for everyone

Dude -

Why didn't you take an LOA?

It might not have been that simple.

Thanks for walking the walk in DAL.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Holiday pay = $150

But at least the get the right day

Just amended via an LOU to 1 extended days pay. For someone here 5 yrs that's about $700 bucks.

 

[Fozzy]

Just amended via an LOU to 1 extended days pay. For someone here 5 yrs that's about $700 bucks.

Which LOU? I didn't see that. Looks like the company may be learning. I would be will to pay $150 to be home on the holidays

 

[LR45JI]

Grizz,

Hindsight is always 20/20; a LOA might have been my best bet but I certainly had no intention of ever coming back and I don't regret my decision.

However, it was that simple! My "Fun-Meter" was pegged out and it was time to go. I went to work and "Flew the Pledge" but working at NJA wasn't fun anymore. When that happens, it's time to go and I did. The 90K+ will help for a while but in 6-12 months there are going to be just as many unhappy people as there are today (OK, maybe a few less). Maybe things will get back to how they use to be but I doubt it - there is still the never-ending bureaucratic BS to put up with everyday.

There are pro's and con's to the move I made but I am much happier where I am now.

 

[Guitar Guy]

Odd question:

First off congrats, I hope it passes, glad its overwith.

In the current agreement from 1998, are the hiring mins set in there, or is that the companys discression?

And has that changed in the new agreement?

The stated minimums are 2500 hrs total, 500 hrs fixed-wing multi and 250 hrs instrument. An ATP and 1st class medical are also required. See this link: http://www.netjets.com/News%20and%20Info/careers_pilots.asp

I did ask about the 2500 hr total time figure during my interview last year and was told it's an insurance requirement.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Which LOU? I didn't see that. Looks like the company may be learning. I would be will to pay $150 to be home on the holidays

Not printed yet. It's being worked out right now in the language clean-up. Coming attractions.

 

[Heavy Set]

I just left Netjets - 28 days ago and wish you guys the best!!

I have to admit that it stings a little to know that I put up with all the crap for 4-years and don't have anything to show for it (i.e. 40K) but am proud to say I walked the line with my brothers in DAL even after I resigned my position.

Hope things work out for everyone

The current and future NJA pilots have you and other experienced pilots who left recently to thank. I really think NJA management started to get nervous about an experience gap that was developing. A lot of people were jumping ship to the LCCs and better corporate positions - I think that the potential for an exodus of experienced pilots helped to convince them that pay needed to be much more competitive.

 

[Unleaded]

G200 and h25b

We could go round and round about this all day long. What does it really matter? You guys give us a hard time about brining it to a strike and then give us a hard time because we didn't bring it to a strike.

I work for this company for the same reasons you work for your company. Pay, QOL and security. Each has it's own importance to all of us.

Personally i want as much time off as I can get and the ability to move around at a whim. For that i'm willing to give up something else. In this case that's pay.

Can't we just agree to disagree?

 

[cl604driver]

Hey huys not to start another rumor. But i heard from several other Netjet guys that the reason you are only getting 60% of the retro at first is because alot of you are going to quit after getting it. Does this hold any truth?

 

[Hawk Driver]

Hey huys not to start another rumor. But i heard from several other Netjet guys that the reason you are only getting 60% of the retro at first is because alot of you are going to quit after getting it. Does this hold any truth?

I know a few guys (mostly retired types or close) where this is the case. They have been collectively holding their breath waiting for a contract so they can collect their signing bonus/retro check. NJA has worked them hard though and the pay is well deserved.

HD

 

[Nightmare67]

Hey huys not to start another rumor. But i heard from several other Netjet guys that the reason you are only getting 60% of the retro at first is because alot of you are going to quit after getting it. Does this hold any truth?

Not really a big deal for most of the guys that were waiting to quit. Most are retired Airline. The TA says if you quit you lose the %40, if you are terminated or lose medical, its yours.

Not too tough to bust a 1st class.

 

[squonk]

Hey huys not to start another rumor. But i heard from several other Netjet guys that the reason you are only getting 60% of the retro at first is because alot of you are going to quit after getting it. Does this hold any truth?

Large percentage of retired Military. Large percentage of over age 60 airline. I'd say the speculation is good.