"Other approaches"

[MTpilot]

Big Sky Country

It looks like I'll have to send him to Helena for an NDB. It takes about an hour to get there in a 172, I'll probably have him do the whole thing with an examiner over there instead of having an extra couple hours of checkride. There are no loc only mins for this approach and no published backcourse, although I do think those would both satisfy the requirements if they were available. Thanks for all the info Fellas.

 

[xjcaptain]

Why not just talk to the examiner and ask him what he would like to do on the checkride. (If he doesn't like to give out specifics ask him how long you should reserve the aircraft for (assuming a rental). If you have to fly elsewhere that way you can plan accordingly timewise.

 

[MTpilot]

Well, the main idea is just to avoid a four hour checkride. Two extra hours of flying is just two extra hours for my student to screw up, not that he would of course...

 

[minitour]

Yeah, not sure I like the idea of going an hour away to shoot an approach and then an hour back.

What happens if he doinks the NDB? Then he's got to fly back for an hour knowing he busted the check ride...then go back another hour to shoot the NDB again. Thats a lot of hobbs time...and a lot of time to think about doinking the ride. Not saying he would, but it could happen.

-mini

 

[Lead Sled]

Oops, my bad.

 

[minitour]

Mini,
Here's a homework assignment for you...

Get out the C-172RG's POH, go to the suppliment section and read up on it then return and report.

'Sled

uh...wrong thread?

 

[Lead Sled]

uh...wrong thread?

Sorry about that. You're right, wrong thread. How did that happen?

 

[minitour]

Its all good man...

Yeah, I checked the "Glide Slope", and it shows a picture of a LOC/GS with "ARC" on it, but...uh...I'll be d@mned if it says what it does..

Airplane flying handbook perhaps? Instrument handbook?

Anyway...I'll let ya know if I see anything

Sorry bout the "mini-threadjack"...back to your regularly scheduled programming...

FBO or MESA (IMO)

-mini

 

[Tinstaafl]

MTPilot, you said the examiner isn't allowed to 'make up' an approach but what about using a published NDB approach from another airport? One from a high-ish elevation so the MDA is at or above the 25mi MSA for your local airport?

That provides safe terrain separation for the operation. The catch would be that any circling requirement will still have to use a local approach but any requirement to demonstrate a missed approach can be met if the chosen, non-local NDB approach only relies on the navaid for the missed.