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Heavy Set

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Hey Ornstein, time to give it up... Yes, UAL and USAirways, your two biggest partners, are now faced with yet ANOTHER LCC in their backyard. This can't be good for them or YOU. Of course you can't see that 99% of all ACA employees DO NOT want to work for you. Of course you have no intention on providing low-cost service to Washington DC residents - you want to preserve UAL's and USAirway's pricing position in the region - right?

Why don't you go play golf with your buddy Lorenzo instead...



Mesa Pledges to Continue Efforts to Acquire Company and Replace Board

Wednesday November 19, 3:21 pm ET
Says Atlantic Coast is Attempting to Thwart Stockholders' Best Interests To consider value in light of new aircraft obligations and effect on Delta relationship


PHOENIX--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov. 19, 2003-- Mesa Air Group, Inc. (Nasdaq: MESA - News) today denounced the recent large aircraft order by Atlantic Coast Holdings, Inc. (Nasdaq: ACAI - News) as an abrogation of the stockholders' right to decide the future direction of the company.

ACA's binding aircraft MOU and related leasing commitments were announced last night despite the letter Mesa sent to ACA's board of directors last week advising them that such a move could further destroy stockholder value and be regarded as a deliberate attempt to frustrate the best interests and rights of ACA stockholders.

This aircraft commitment represents well over one billion dollars, or over two and a half times the market capitalization of the company prior to Mesa's offer. While we understand management's motives to enter into a binding agreement, we believe a far more prudent course of action would have been to allow the stockholders to exercise their rights and pass judgment on management's plan to morph into a low cost airline.

Mesa also notes, as disclosed in ACA's recent 10Q, this decision may compel Delta Air Lines to cancel the contract that ACA currently enjoys with them and which represents approximately 15% of ACA's revenue. In light of these disappointing corporate actions by ACA, Mesa is moving forward expeditiously with its consent solicitation to replace ACA's board with a new board who have stockholders' interests as their number one priority. Mesa also intends to proceed with its exchange offer, subject to considering the impact of these developments on the value of ACA and consequently its offer.

Jonathan Ornstein, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Mesa said: "As stockholders, we are extremely disappointed but frankly, not surprised at ACA's announcement. This latest action, is one of several taken recently, to entrench themselves and frustrate stockholders' rights, even including using stockholders money to commence litigation to prevent a stockholder vote. Stockholders should have the inherent right to decide the future of the company for themselves, but ACA's board and management have recently appeared to have ignored this obligation. We commit today both as a major stockholder ourselves, and as a bidder for this company, to ensure ACA's current board and management are compelled to uphold this basic principle.

"Stockholders should ask why ACA is doing everything in their power to prevent this vote, when the market seems clear in its view. In July, when ACA clarified its deal with United was in jeopardy and then announced its new strategy, its stock dropped 43%. We are proceeding with our consent solicitation and remain fully committed to acquiring ACA and rescuing its stockholders from the business strategy its management team has embarked upon. Mesa will do all we can to protect the value of this company."

About Mesa

Mesa currently operates 150 aircraft with 938 daily system departures to 163 cities, 40 states, the District of Columbia, Canada, Mexico and the Bahamas. It operates in the West and Midwest as America West Express; the Midwest and East as US Airways Express; in Denver and the West as United Express; in Denver as Frontier JetExpress until December 31, 2003; in Kansas City with Midwest Express and in New Mexico and Texas as Mesa Airlines. The Company, which was founded in New Mexico in 1982, has approximately 4,000 employees. Mesa is a member of the Regional Airline Association and Regional Aviation Partners. News releases and other information about Mesa can be found at the company's web site at http://www.mesa-air.com.
 
Ornstein sucks....

I love how he leaves out the fact that if Mesa
buys ACA, the Delta contract will still be
terminated due to the fact that Mesa operates
a 90-seat aircraft. I'm sure that just slipped
his mind.................
 
He really seems concerned about ACA's shareholders here, if only he cared about his employees the same way.
 
Screwed!

Mr. O is between a rock and a hard place. He needs ACA to continue operations with U and United. There is no possible way he can expand fast enough to cover where ACA left off. He will not be able to uphold the agreement he made with these two companies and he is sweating. He could care less about the "stockholders". This man is nothing more than a crook that is manipulating the system for his own advantage. It will be fun to watch him squirm. I can't believe that he thought that ACA management would actually hold off on purchasing the NB's because he sent a letter. Does he think anyone on the ACA side of the house is antimidated by him? If Independence takes off, which I believe it will, the stockholders will be quite pleased. He sounds like one of the naive nine. What a piece of human garbage! :mad:
 
Ornstein is sweating now!

Personally, I think he is a bully - and bullies do not belong in a service business where front-line employees interface with paying customers. Better to keep employees happy (a la Southwest) than constantly beat them down to save a few bucks...
 
Frank O. (intentional, if you know what I mean)

Mr. Ornstein is a worthy successor to the Risleys.

I second HeavySet's and Dispatch's comments.

While on the subject of Mesa bosses, those who go back at Mesa will know that a certain check airman and ex-chief pilot helped start up Freedom.
 
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Heavy Set said:
Ornstein is sweating now!

Personally, I think he is a bully - and bullies do not belong in a service business where front-line employees interface with paying customers. Better to keep employees happy (a la Southwest) than constantly beat them down to save a few bucks...

Just to add to your accurate post.....At SWA they actual care about providing air transportation to customers. For folks like JO it's all about personal gain and very little about providing a service to communities or providing jobs. It's all about JO.
 
All you have to do is see how a company treats its employees and the correlation with success.
People like JO will never ultimately succeed indefinitely. Bad people eventually get what they deserve.
 
The thing that makes me nervous is when the ACA thing falls through he's going to be shopping for someone else. I'm a little worried that XJET has a lot of cash in the bank.

Plus his personal nepoleanic complex to prove himself to Gordo after his depature from COEX mid 90s
 
The concern will be where MESA finds its growth in the future. Like most public companies, revenue/earnings growth is EXPECTED - you either grow or your stock sinks (and I'll bet you Ornstein has major stock option incentives - keep the stock price high)... So, if UAL and USAirways are adversely impacted by the ACA/Indy Air situation with more competition and little UAL feed, then MESA's outlook from a stock analyst point of view could be quite negative - causing the stock price to decline. Obviously USAirways shutting down and UAL reducing its IAD operations (with MESA as a potential ACA successor) would hurt MESA big time.

Sure, America West is growing, but that alone may not be good enough to pacify the analysts... I agree that he would instantly start searching for more growth - maybe COEX or Pinnacle - he would need to diversify his holdings (and get away from his heavy UAL and USAirways exposure)... It's all about risk exposure - reduce the partner-risk through diversification...
 
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J.O. sucks major donkey cock. Please, God, take his ass off this planet!
 
Pay the Russians enough take him up to the Space station and let him outside for a "space walk" untethered.....and well you know.:p


Jobear
 
Unfortunately, Ornstein is nowhere near "done". The shareholders still have to vote. Finally, there is no doubt that UAL is up to their eyeballs in backing Johnny O so we have to contend with all of their resources and pull as well. The fight is just getting started....
 
I kind of liked Storm's line in X-Men:
"Do you know what happens to a toad when it's struck by lightning...the same thing that happens to anything else." ... ZAP
(or something like that)
:D
 
What managers never get is that employees treat customers no better than they are treated. Treat your employees like monkey crap and guess how they will treat the customers.
 
Heavy Set said:
Yes, UAL and USAirways, your two biggest partners, are now faced with yet ANOTHER LCC in their backyard. This can't be good for them or YOU.
Or any of us, for that matter. Please explain how something that's bad for UA/U is good for the piloting profession for me, I must have missed that the first time around.

Heavy Set said:
Of course you have no intention on providing low-cost service to Washington DC residents - you want to preserve UAL's and USAirway's pricing position in the region - right?
Again, I ask: since when was providing low-cost travel ever in the best interests of this profession? Seems to me that another LCC will simply serve to lower the bar for everyone as it simply helps drive a few more nails into UA's/U's coffin. No one here wants to fly anything bigger than an A320 anyway, right? How are ACA's A320 rates? Any better than the other low-budget carriers?

Seriously, how does this move not just make ACA the Mesa of the majors?
 
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VFR on Top said:
Or any of us, for that matter. Please explain how something that's bad for UA/U is good for the piloting profession for me, I must have missed that the first time around.

I guess it depends on where you sit. What's good for the "industry" may not be good for a given individual personally. If you don't have a job you don't want to compete with thousands of out of work, highly qualified individuals for a pilot job. That would be bad. If you already work at one of the LCC's and United goes belly up, your airline could fill the flying void that's left and many UAL pilots could join the ranks of your airline below you on the seniority list. Personally, I'd welcome a healthy UAL that started hiring again to clear out the younger guys above me on the seniority list.
 
I agree but...

I agree with your point about trying to maintain the upper crust jobs in this industry. However that is no longer possible in todays market. After 911 the model needed to be changed to reflect the customers unwillingness to pay higer ticket fares and thus our higher salaries. Ta Da, LLC's... Ok, so the domestic market is going to chage to LCC's taking tthe high profit routes while the Main Line carriers still provide full service to smaller less profitable cities w/regional jets and feeding International ops.

The point that everyone is trying to make with ACA/IND is that, we know that a large portion of our carriers are now going to be spent on the Regional/domestic level. If the MESA Monster is aloud to continue its unchecked growth we will all be on food stamps trying to pay our student loans for the rest of time.

Just my 2 bits

Regards DD
 

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