Operation "BOB"

[Dan Roman]

Have you guys heard about the 49'ers? You might want to delete your post unless you feel like paying tens of thousands in legal fees. Look out for that Fed Marshall with papers for you to sign. 49 guys got served during contract 2000 for trying to initiate a job action. Not too smart of you to initiate something like this on a web board. They will find you.

Spot on

 

[Scoot 11]

Have you guys heard about the 49'ers? You might want to delete your post unless you feel like paying tens of thousands in legal fees. Look out for that Fed Marshall with papers for you to sign. 49 guys got served during contract 2000 for trying to initiate a job action. Not too smart of you to initiate something like this on a web board. They will find you.

Well said. Anything you put in print, even on an anonymous web board can and WILL be used against you.

 

[JohnQ]

What you also need to understand is that NWA's "BOB" was due to an egregious portion of the contract that DAL mgmt tried to ram down our throats in BK, but were unsuccessful in doing so.

Bottom line is that we are paid by the actual block time, or scheduled block time, PER LEG. So...to make it easy, say you have an ATL-DEN-ATL one day turnaround worth 6.00, all hard block time (3+10 out there and 2.50 back). Say due to strong headwinds your ATL-DEN leg ends up 3.25. Now those same winds help you out going home and you block in at 2.35. You have still blocked exactly 6 hours, but have been paid 6.15, due to the overblock on the first leg.

Paying block time per leg, and still guaranteeing the scheduled on legs such as leg 2 in this example, is merely a way to ensure that pilots are rewarded for efficiency and not "dawdling."

However, during the NWA BK, their mgmt briefly convinced the pilots to sign a concessionary agreement that said that any underblock on a leg (leg 2 in this example) would nullify any overblock (leg 1) on other legs.

Hey, great idea right? Pilots fly the same for less pay hours than they used to get? Not quite. The company forgot that the pilots taxi the airplane. It was not a "grass roots" whisper campaign. It was just a bunch of pilots realizing that flying under scheduled block was just not financially a good idea, if it served to punish them. Thus "Block or Better."

I believe NWA management soon learned the error of their ways. DAL mgmt got to see the NWA example and were unsuccessful in their attempt to get it at DAL--probably were saved from themselves.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

You Northwest guys are clowns....

Slow down over THIS? Embarrassing

 

[JAM-BRO]

Bill

U are embarrasing and a P U S S....

 

[xjhawk]

Bill

U are embarrasing and a P U S S....

"Like"

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Ooooo tough guy.....

Hey send Richard an email about your plan, or you can't find enough sack to get it done?

Once again, embarrassed that someday we may fly together....(rolling eyes)

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

"Like"

LIKE you matter XJ

 

[FmrFreightDog]

You Northwest guys are clowns....

Slow down over THIS? Embarrassing

I'll take "Dumba$$ed blanket statements" for $500, Alex. One post... ONE.. and you use it to take a shot at an entire pilot group. BOB at NWA happened for a good reason, and it wasn't about a bad TA. You'd be hard pressed to find a whole lot of fNWA guys advocating any such thing right now.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

You are right.....I am wrong to paint a whole group embarrassing. Just that guy....

My bad.