Open time with furloughs

[mamba20]

Language and words are much like a currency: when you overuse them, they lose value.

"Scab" has a very specific meaning and simply does not apply in this case. Do you really think every pilot at American Airlines who's flown 1 minute of extra flying since 9/11 (pilots on furlough ever since then) is "worse than a scab?" Should you carry a list around with their names on it? Deny them the jumpseat, and say bad things about them to their face and to their back?

Why not follow the lead and the example of your pilot leadership in this instance, whomever they might be? And I'm all about transparency: negotiate with the company to let everyone know exactly who is gobbling up all the "extra flying", override pay, and so forth.

You mistook what I said. What I meant was people who VJM, someone who has days off and picks up an OPEN trip, not a trip that someone is trying to get rid of and certainly not someone who gets "an extra minute" I'm all about overs thats great but picking up straight open time is not cool.

 

[670X]

WOW I can't believe I'm posting this but..... I was furloughed once. I took a job in "Screw Scheduling" for the mortgage until the recall.
It was the worst job ever, whining pilots causing schedule disruptions, losers picking up all the open time available while I was flying a desk.
If pilots are furloughed you should NOT pick up open time. You are screwing your "buddy"
It was a fate worse than death, so I went back to instructing, and delivering pizzas, at least I have my pride.

 

[j41driver]

Well I spoke with a few fellow RJ right seaters where I work, and almost threw up in my mouth when guys said they didn't understand what was wrong with picking up open time with people on furlough.

Talk about a me-first disgusting attitude.

Did you at least educate them on why they were so wrong?

 

[Abbey]

I never liked picking up time with furloughs out either. Still don't. But the truth is, the furloughs are not going to come back regardless of open time flying. They will junior man and fly reserves to the max. Only after that, if trips are still uncovered, will the furloughs be brought back.

So, noone picks up time, everyone whines about being junior manned. Or, guys can pick up time and make a little money. Either way, pilots are going to complain.

I remember at XJ when furloughs and refurloughs where the craze in 2001-2004, it was a few of the instructors that where riding around in the right seat on overtime pay. One was relieived of his instructor position because he wouldn't do it. Others were more than happy to take the money.:angryfire

 

[Soverytired]

WOW I can't believe I'm posting this but..... I was furloughed once. I took a job in "Screw Scheduling" for the mortgage until the recall.
It was the worst job ever, whining pilots causing schedule disruptions, losers picking up all the open time available while I was flying a desk.
If pilots are furloughed you should NOT pick up open time. You are screwing your "buddy"
It was a fate worse than death, so I went back to instructing, and delivering pizzas, at least I have my pride.

I'd say you're a bit schitzo there, friend.

1. Whiny pilots causing disruptions = bad

2. Pilots who help the company (and themselves) by helping plug holes caused by those disruptions = also bad.

Not sure what you really consider a friend of crew scheduling. From a crew scheduling perspective, I'd think reliable volunteer flyers would be your best resource. Yet you call them "losers".

Probably a good thing you quit.