On touchdown...turns into LAHSO

[minitour]

Hey Wankel, what kind of plane do you fly? (not related to theis thread, just curious)

its definitely related to the thread...I think the intersection is like 8000' from the end of 14...maybe closer to 7500...its been a while...

man...you musta been moooooovin



of course I'm just d!ckin with ya...I woulda been pissed too man...

 

[MTpilot]

Maybe he was landing long and letting it roll a little fast cause he was goin' to the other end of the field anyway, maybe not

 

[Wankel7]

Landed 14 actually.....

I had plenty of space to stop.....just was a lil pissed about it.

And it was a Shorts 360....Irish concord

 

[minitour]

yeah I hear ya man...touchdown isn't when you wanna hear "hold short of..."

Or best yet, wait until we're 100 feet from Delta (and obviously not going to make it) to issue a "hold short of Delta"...WTF was that, lady?

-mini

 

[Wankel7]

Maybe he was landing long and letting it roll a little fast cause he was goin' to the other end of the field anyway, maybe not

Actually, we were. Heading over to Winner. Didn't really land that long but maybe a lil....

http://www.naco.faa.gov/content/naco/online/airportdiagrams/00466AD.PDF

It is cool to talk about it this much...now I wanna go back and do it again

 

[minitour]

Actually, we were. Heading over to Winner. Didn't really land that long but maybe a lil....

http://www.naco.faa.gov/content/naco/online/airportdiagrams/00466AD.PDF

It is cool to talk about it this much...now I wanna go back and do it again

Was it the chick up in tower?

That crazy lady...night flight student pilot days...CFI and I JUST get airborne...maybe 100 feet and I notice darkness...I thought "oh sh*t..are we in a low low cloud?"..then it dawns on me "did she turn off the lights?"

haha he says "yeah, she must wanna get it on with the guy upstairs"

She gives out some strange sh*t like "cleared for the left base runway 23" (when I'm expecting "cleared visual approach")...just wondering if its her...

 

[EatSleepFly]

Funny, before I even scrolled down that far, the first airport that came to mind was YNG.

You have to understand...Youngstown controllers get all frazzled when multiple airplanes are in the pattern for two different runways. They don't get much practice other than the C-130's and KC-135's that go 'round and 'round.

I flew out of there for a year or so. Last time I had a problem, it was the opposite of yours. They wanted to give a bunch of delaying vectors inbound to 14 because there was Cessna traffic landing on 5. Uh, hello? It's a King Air, not a 757...I think 7500' or whatever that is is adequate to land and turn off long before reaching 5. BFE is a pretty good description of Youngstown.

 

[b82rez]

LAHSO clearances are given in conjunction with the landing clearance. If it is not, it is not LAHSO.

The controller asking you to hold short of that runway is no different than them asking you to make a certain turnoff. If you can't, say unable, if you can then do it. Once you land any clearances by the controller are, by definition, a taxi clearance.

I'm sure, however, that a "standby" from the pilot of the landing airplane would cause the controller to rethink his/her tight sequencing.

 

[canyonblue737]

"GOD" is right. Likely she simply could tell you could easily stop and when she made her statement you could have, without penality, rejected it. Perhaps then she would have made the C152 go around or whatever, but the reality won out, you WERE slowed and easily made the turn off. True LAHSO occurs with the landing clearance and often involves tolerances so small that if you are unable to hold short after accepting the clearance then safety margins could evaporate into nothing... clearly not the case in your situation.

 

[minitour]

of course, really she should have given the LAHSO to the 152.

If they were landing RY 5, there's no reason not to stop a 152/172 in the 4,000' before the intersection.

If they were landing 23...hell...800' should be enough...bring it in nice and slow around 55kts, touch at the beginning of the runway and on the brakes...its doable

Didja catch a tail number on the "cessna traffic"?

-mini