Oklahoma and Tulsa Blame Highway Potholes on Airline...

[SKC]

OK teacher's pay ranks (according to the last NEA mag that I saw) #49 out of 51 (incl DC). Typically the teacher's union starts requesting pay raises after the govt has thrown a whole bunch of extra crap on them, like No Child Left Behind. Plus, every year the kids just continue to get worse thanks to lazy @$$ parents.

 

[aussiefly]

THE BEER'S 3.2% d@mnit!!! dont slight us poor people that extra .2%!!!

Good thing is it's just a short hop across the river into Texas to get some REAL beer.

LOL what are you talking about. The U.S doesn't have real beer its a watered down version. You yanks need to try some australian beer lol That will knock your socks off.

When I first came to the US I used to be able to drink people under the table with there little beers lol

 

[mcjohn]

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Don't really know what that means

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I work with a dude from OK.

 

[Crossky]

All Okies wanted me to understand that God really is a baptist. I really would like to get some Okies and fighting Irish together with losts of alcohol together to discuss that question.

Oklahoma and Kansas have some funny liquor laws. BYOB bars, membership clubs etc. etc. No liquor by the drink. What a way to run a State. Oral Roberts is still waiting for God to call him home.

Grucho, you act like there are no Catholics in OK. The town of Shawnee even has a Catholic College. Although much much smaller than the one in SBN.

That 3.2 beer fiasco is still hurting OK, when now you can even go vegas style gambling at your favorite local Indian Casino, but no major label beer over 3.2 for you. Solution: when visiting, just drink imported beer, no restriction on their strength. I guess the drinking public doesn't have a political lobby for the legislature to change that.

BTW Oral spends most of his time in California. There are many Bible schools in T-Town though, which isn't a bad thing unless their students start praying for rent money they're unwilling to go to work to eran for themselves. Unpaid rent makes a Christian look irresponsible and hypocritical.

 

[hoop]

Groucho, beeing a born and bred Okie, your comments were hilarious! You pretty much hit the nail on the head.

OK, I've got to chime in on the teacher's salary thing...... Both of my parents are retired teachers for the state of Oklahoma, putting in 30+ years..... My dad topped out at ~38K, and my mom topped out slightly higher @ 42K, only because she was a vocational teacher. Granted, the cost of living is about as cheap as it gets in the nation, but If you think that is an acceptable salary for putting up with the punk-azz kids these days, think again. Matter of fact, that's why both my parents hung it up. They loved teaching, but said there was absolutely no parental envolvement with the kids these days (for the most part).

I myself am a state employee, have a Masters, and gross around 40K. Opportunity is slim to none, although the oil industry has revived (imagine that). This state has been dead since the oil bust in the early 80's. As soon as someone makes me a decent offer in the great repbublic of Texas, I'm outta here! Tons of opportunity in Tejas, with a huge economy.

Just my .02 cents

 

[mcjohn]

If you think that is an acceptable salary for putting up with the punk-azz kids these days, think again. Matter of fact, that's why both my parents hung it up. They loved teaching, but said there was absolutely no parental envolvement with the kids these days (for the most part).

This is a serious problem all over the nation. 20-30 years in the future isn't looking too good when this generation takes over. My wife has decided to pursue a career in etiquette training for young children due to her observations of parent / children relationships. There is a school in Athens, GA that trains for setting up the business and everything.

 

[con-pilot]

Who told you that BS? There is no "surplus from the lottery". the biggest part of that money is going towards education, because that's what it was guaranteed for. I've lived in this state all my life, and I can tell you that the bad roads are no recent thing. That's just the state and the city of Tulsa trying to pass the buck for their own incompetence at running things. The state would have some money if they didnt give it all to the teachers every time they whine a little bit about their salary. No, the roads dont have a THING to do with Great Plains going belly up, that's a joke. The problem is years and years of money mismanagement by virtually EVERY branch of the state's government.

HA! You want me to disagree with you, fat chance. I understand stupid politicians, I understand corrupt politicians, what I hate are stupid corrupt politicians.

In Oklahoma we have more than our share of stupid corrupt politicians at the local level. Gene Stipe ring any bells?

 

[con-pilot]

Groucho vbmenu_register("postmenu_1001102", true);

Believe it or not, parts of Oklahoma have been brought into the 20th. Century (yeah, the 20th Century), kicking and screaming against change all the way.

Liquor by the drink, as compared to 'liquor by the wink' is now legal in most counties. However, all beer sold in convenience and grocery stores are '3.2%' beer. The beer sold in liquor stores and bars are normal strength.

I am not a native Oklahoman, I moved here from England when I was 15 finished high school and then graduated from the University of Oklahoma.

(Yes, it was a heck of a culture shock, moving to Del City, Oklahoma from London. That is when I truly understood what Sir Winston Churchill meant by his statement; "We are a people separated by a common language." referring to US/UK relations.)

All in all Oklahoma is not a bad place to live, except for bombings and the occasional tornado.

 

[hoop]

Gene Stipe ring any bells?

I think he is/was a key player in the Little Dixie Distribution crime ring in S.E Oklahoma for many years. About as corrupt as they come. Then throw in a couple of attorneys like the infamous Bill Daniels, and a crooked D.A. like Wes Lane and there is no such thing as the Justice System.

 

[con-pilot]

hoop, in case you didn't know, Bill Daniels is dead, killed himself after shooting his wife.

And, let us not forget the infamous (the kiddies pal) Lloyd E. Rader.