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Here are the answers to the two questions:
1) B/c this is a government job, everyone who qualifies, based upon the requirement of 3 years work experience or 4 years of college (or a combination of both), and who meet all the rest of the requirements in the public annoucement should get an invite to test. (side note: if you do the online application incorrectly they will not consider you). After you test, interviews are offered based upon the score you make (highest scores first obviously). This is NOT a fast process. The last time they offered the public annoucement (which if I recall correctly was in January) the test dates offered began in mid-February. I know at least three people who tested in Feb, scored in the 90s, and who have not yet been offered an interview. Again, I say this is not a fast process.
2) Prior to these public announcemts, the FAA was hiring exclusively from the ranks of military controllers, people who already held a CTO (Control Tower Opertor Certificate), and CTI (college training initiative program students).
The link to the new public offering bid is:
http://jobs.faa.gov/asap_detail.asp?vac_id=104253
Best wishes to all who apply!
1) B/c this is a government job, everyone who qualifies, based upon the requirement of 3 years work experience or 4 years of college (or a combination of both), and who meet all the rest of the requirements in the public annoucement should get an invite to test. (side note: if you do the online application incorrectly they will not consider you). After you test, interviews are offered based upon the score you make (highest scores first obviously). This is NOT a fast process. The last time they offered the public annoucement (which if I recall correctly was in January) the test dates offered began in mid-February. I know at least three people who tested in Feb, scored in the 90s, and who have not yet been offered an interview. Again, I say this is not a fast process.
2) Prior to these public announcemts, the FAA was hiring exclusively from the ranks of military controllers, people who already held a CTO (Control Tower Opertor Certificate), and CTI (college training initiative program students).
The link to the new public offering bid is:
http://jobs.faa.gov/asap_detail.asp?vac_id=104253
Best wishes to all who apply!
Don't know specifics on what parts of the online app are being done incorrectly. What I should have said was be sure to follow the directions exactly and fill it out as completly as possible, so that there won't be any opportunity for them to kick it out.
As for the second question about pay. My understanding is that new hires at the academy are getting a nominal salary (someone at work said $8.50 per hour, that may be rumor, but I do know its not a lot....but you're also only talking about 10 weeks or so). However, you also get a tax-free per diem that will cover your living expenses out in OKC. There are several apartements (Walnut Gardens is one...and they have a web site - google it) that cater to the FAA only, and have fully-furnished/outfitted units, so all you will do is bring your clothes, computer, etc. They know the rate the FAA pays you and I can guarantee that the rent will be exactly what your given in per diem. But its still the best deal going out there. No lease, no ties, just pay while you stay.
Then as for pay...once you're at your first facility.....go look at the thread entitled ATC Benefits under the Air Traffic Header. The pay scales are posted (or link to the scales are), and an explanation on how to work them, within another post I made (if you have a speciofic question about a specific area or facility PM me and I will try to help). That thread also talks abouit some of the other benefits that come with the job.
As for location, on the app....I am told that the more locations you put down the better your chances are at getting an opportunity to interview, simply b/c more areas/hubs will have your name and test score on their rooster. So, if you're flexible about where you land, fill in all 10 (or however many spot there are).
As for the second question about pay. My understanding is that new hires at the academy are getting a nominal salary (someone at work said $8.50 per hour, that may be rumor, but I do know its not a lot....but you're also only talking about 10 weeks or so). However, you also get a tax-free per diem that will cover your living expenses out in OKC. There are several apartements (Walnut Gardens is one...and they have a web site - google it) that cater to the FAA only, and have fully-furnished/outfitted units, so all you will do is bring your clothes, computer, etc. They know the rate the FAA pays you and I can guarantee that the rent will be exactly what your given in per diem. But its still the best deal going out there. No lease, no ties, just pay while you stay.
Then as for pay...once you're at your first facility.....go look at the thread entitled ATC Benefits under the Air Traffic Header. The pay scales are posted (or link to the scales are), and an explanation on how to work them, within another post I made (if you have a speciofic question about a specific area or facility PM me and I will try to help). That thread also talks abouit some of the other benefits that come with the job.
As for location, on the app....I am told that the more locations you put down the better your chances are at getting an opportunity to interview, simply b/c more areas/hubs will have your name and test score on their rooster. So, if you're flexible about where you land, fill in all 10 (or however many spot there are).
Also not included in the post under ATC Benefits, with the pay scales, is the fact that we get 10% pay differential for all hours worked between 6 PM and 6 AM (called night diff), and 25% differential paid for all work done on Sundays. If you're an ATC Instructor, you also get paid 10% differential for allnthe time that you are giving OJT on control positions. And time and a half for OT (which is anything more then 40 hours in 1 week), and double time on all holidays. If the holiday falls on your weekend, then you get the double time paid on another day that falls adjacent to your weekend. These figures are not included in the base pay scale posted in that other thread. This is all additional pay on top of your base pay plus locality pay.
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The current application states that you must put "United States" and "Throughout The Nation" in your preferences. By following these instructions, will I be placing my city assignment at the whim of the FAA? Or will I have any other opportunities to state my preference? I am interested in making the switch to ATC, but only if I can be assigned to MKE...I cannot justify moving my family again. Any advice would be helpful!
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Applicants that applied for the 2/15 window took the AT-SAT in March and April. Any day now they are expecting an email to select their geographical preferences. The rumor is that the applicants will be able to select two states.
Another rumor is that the board is meeting in July to decide the fate for the 2/15 OTS applicants.
Not exactly a speedy process, but it's getting better. OTS applicants from last year had to wait up to six months to take the AT-SAT, and are just now interviewing. For them, it will be about a year from application to OKC.
The following is off the FAA Employee Web Site from back in March:
March 14 — Word is spreading about FAA's speedier efforts to get new controllers on board.The Federal Times highlighted the one-stop shopping controller pre-employment processing initiative, as the program itself expands to include prospective Technical Operations hires.
The March 13 article touted the Pre-Employment Processing Centers' (they are using the acronym PEPC) benefit of dramatically shortening the time between the interview and beginning academy training, and cutting a process that used to take six to nine months, to two or three months.
In the past, new hires would have to make separate appointments for the interview, medical and security screenings. With a PEPC, the whole process from interview to completing most of these screenings takes place in a centralized location, on the same day as the interview.
More than 300 applicants have been invited to attend a PEPC since January, when the first processing center event was held in New York.
The PEPC is FAA's answer to managing the increased number of controller applications, and meets requirements established in the FAA Controller Workforce Plan to continually review the hiring process and ensure the best people are hired in locations where they are most needed. An updated Workforce Plan will be released shortly.
The next PEPC is scheduled for March 17-21 at Miami Air Route Traffic Control Center and, for the first time, will include airway transportation system specialist applicants (check back with ATO News later this month for more on the Miami-area PEPC).
Processing centers are also planned for Atlanta, Fort Worth and Chicago this spring.
Has anyone attended one? If so, how did it go? How fast was the process. I know we had one in ATL about 2 weeks ago, but haven't heard any feedback.
March 14 — Word is spreading about FAA's speedier efforts to get new controllers on board.The Federal Times highlighted the one-stop shopping controller pre-employment processing initiative, as the program itself expands to include prospective Technical Operations hires.
The March 13 article touted the Pre-Employment Processing Centers' (they are using the acronym PEPC) benefit of dramatically shortening the time between the interview and beginning academy training, and cutting a process that used to take six to nine months, to two or three months.
In the past, new hires would have to make separate appointments for the interview, medical and security screenings. With a PEPC, the whole process from interview to completing most of these screenings takes place in a centralized location, on the same day as the interview.
More than 300 applicants have been invited to attend a PEPC since January, when the first processing center event was held in New York.
The PEPC is FAA's answer to managing the increased number of controller applications, and meets requirements established in the FAA Controller Workforce Plan to continually review the hiring process and ensure the best people are hired in locations where they are most needed. An updated Workforce Plan will be released shortly.
The next PEPC is scheduled for March 17-21 at Miami Air Route Traffic Control Center and, for the first time, will include airway transportation system specialist applicants (check back with ATO News later this month for more on the Miami-area PEPC).
Processing centers are also planned for Atlanta, Fort Worth and Chicago this spring.
Has anyone attended one? If so, how did it go? How fast was the process. I know we had one in ATL about 2 weeks ago, but haven't heard any feedback.
heres my timeline:
1. applied summer of 07
2. Thought i was forgotten about
3. Notified to take AT-SAT approx-- 18 Feb
4. Took AT-SAT-- 03 March
5. Got score back--18 March
6. Put on Referral Lists released--31 March
7. FAA selection folks met around--7-11 April
8. Notified I was selected for Interview--18 April
9. Informed of the PEPC places, chose the one I wanted--21 April
10. As long as everything goes smooth, may have a class date in OKC within 3 months of the PEPC
As you can see, I think the process is running a lot better now
PEPC's in: Dallas Fort Worth--28 April -- 01 May
Chicago: Around 21 May - 24 May
Los Angeles in June
You may be chosen for several different locations based on your qualifications. If you are, then just tell them your preference, they seem very accommodating.
I recommend using Patrick Mattison's AT-SAT test prep guide also.
1. applied summer of 07
2. Thought i was forgotten about
3. Notified to take AT-SAT approx-- 18 Feb
4. Took AT-SAT-- 03 March
5. Got score back--18 March
6. Put on Referral Lists released--31 March
7. FAA selection folks met around--7-11 April
8. Notified I was selected for Interview--18 April
9. Informed of the PEPC places, chose the one I wanted--21 April
10. As long as everything goes smooth, may have a class date in OKC within 3 months of the PEPC
As you can see, I think the process is running a lot better now
PEPC's in: Dallas Fort Worth--28 April -- 01 May
Chicago: Around 21 May - 24 May
Los Angeles in June
You may be chosen for several different locations based on your qualifications. If you are, then just tell them your preference, they seem very accommodating.
I recommend using Patrick Mattison's AT-SAT test prep guide also.
got a 98.5 on the AT-SAT
Just went to the Dallas / Ft Worth PEPC
a fairly smooth process, Very nice folks to work with
The HR folks are really working hard to make it as painless as possible. When you are all done, you will then put in a request for a training date and you will be assigned a date temporarily. It will go official in 3-6 weeks when you get your permanent official letter.
Just went to the Dallas / Ft Worth PEPC
a fairly smooth process, Very nice folks to work with
The HR folks are really working hard to make it as painless as possible. When you are all done, you will then put in a request for a training date and you will be assigned a date temporarily. It will go official in 3-6 weeks when you get your permanent official letter.
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