Odd Technique on B-350 King Air

[satpak77]

Met a guy the other day who flies a B-350 King Air - claims he goes into reverse "every time, absolutely every time" after landing (runway is 6000 feet) and also immediately puts flaps up upon touchdown to "help with braking"

WTF

comments? I have never heard this, in over 10 years of FSI recurrent and meeting other operators

 

[Quimby]

The flap thing sounds a little questionable.

 

[LJ45]

you never heard it for a reason, because it is foolish. Wait until he grabs the gear handle.

 

[JakeSnake]

Nothing more than ground fine is necessary for most normal landings in the B350 (and all the KA's I've flown)....I suppose flaps up landings or operations into extremely short runways would be a couple of exceptions. It just makes a lot of noise and kicks up dirt/fod....there just isn't much benefit to using reverse at the normal touchdown speeds of the airplane.

Raising the flaps on the landing roll is goofy.

 

[semperfido]

Bet he has never been to Flight Safety. I did fly with one bonehead in a 350 many years ago that wanted to pull up the flaps right away on the runway. He did it once and that was that. He was an old guy used to flying single pilot. We had bought this King Air and hired a few contractors to fly it. Initially, none of us wanted anything to do with it. Turns out, it was a lot of fun and a nice break from flying a G4. Enjoyed it a lot. Especially, the VFR up and down the NE corridor.

 

[brokeflyer]

the guy is not wise. we'll read about him soon enough. The flap retraction wont help with a plane of that weight. Ground idle provides plenty of aerodynamic braking.


Ive landed a 350 on 3500' runway plenty and never had to stomp on anything.

 

[satpak77]

yeah I found it very abnormal.......

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Wasn't there an internet post a few years back about a guy gearing up a King Air doing something similar?

Where the F do people get these "techniques?"

:erm:

I cant think of many jets that need much extra braking on 6000+ft, nevermind a King Air.

 

[satpak77]

Wasn't there an internet post a few years back about a guy gearing up a King Air doing something similar?

Where the F do people get these "techniques?"

:erm:

I cant think of many jets that need much extra braking on 6000+ft, nevermind a King Air.

I hear you my brother....

 

[pair_of_pratts]

Cadors Number: 2009C3607
Occurrence Date: 2009-12-23 Occurrence Time: 0233 Z
Occurrence Location: Winnipeg Intl (CYWG)
Make: BEECH Model: E90 Year Built: 1976

Detail Information
Date: 2009-12-23
Narrative: SN 696M, a Beech E90 medevac flight operated by Skynorth Air, landed on Runway 18 at Winnipeg and during the roll out, the landing gear collapsed. The aircraft came to stop on Runway 18 north of Runway 13/31. PAG 504, a Perimeter Metro, was on final for Runway 13 at the time was pulled up by tower and diverted to Runway 31 for landing. Runway 18 was NOTAM'd closed until 0600z. There was substantial damage to the aircraft but no injuries to the 3 crew and patient. TSB report to follow.

Date: 2009-12-24
Narrative: UPDATE TSB reported that the Skynorth Beech E90, registration C-GSNM, had touched down on Runway 18 at Winnipeg, MB on a medevac flight from St. Theresa Point. The landing gear selector was inadvertently selected up when an attempt was made to raise the flaps immediately after touchdown. The ground/air safety switch was not yet in ground and all three gear cycled up. The aircraft settled onto the runway and was substantially damaged. There were no injuries.