DTW320 said:
You are hilarious.....pathetic, but hilarious nonetheless.
I see....hypocrite = "stupid", "moron" ,"putz", and the entire list of grade-school names that you quickly resort to throwing at whomever disagrees with your simplistic posts. GOT IT!! (I wonder if the mods would agree......)
I doubt it, but feel free to PM one just the same.
Incidentally, you can add "pathetic" and "sophomoric" to your list of attacks,,, that is, if you could properly spell the word (reference your original post). Luckily, my education included proper spelling and use of those and more that you have somehow missed.
Now THAT is some name-calling that I am OK with. And, to answer the question of "why?", simple, because YOU said that you stay off topics that you don't fully understand. Get it??? GREAT!!
No, I don't. I fully understand the situation and feel free to comment on it. Too bad you don't like it.
Additionally, you're STILL misusing the word as you are attempting to apply it to me. Read up on that dictionary you say I've been delving into...
I see you would rather talk about the dictionary than the substance of my point. Cute. I guess it is easier for you to divert and obfuscate rather than face it. Big surprise there.
Let's see here... Your ORIGINAL post had absolutely ZERO debate of the facts in it, but rather tried to commiserate with ExAF in a multi-paragraph rant, then you accuse ME of trying to "divert and obfuscate"?
What was that about hypocritical? Yeah, that's what I thought.
Its really simple however....YOU blame nwaalpa for lowering the bar and talk about how our actions have a negative effect on the LCC's.
You have a little reading comprehension skill problem there, might want to take some classes to clear that up. Until then, go back and read what I wrote again. Someone ELSE attacked NWA ALPA, I responded by saying that although NWA ALPA shares a PART of the blame (my emphasis), it's each individual NW pilot that shares the MAJORITY of the responsibility because THEY are the ones that ratified it.
So no, I don't blame ALPA as much as I blame the NW pilot group. Get it this time, sport?
The FACTS are that up until the recent BK's, LCC rates were having a negative influence on the legacies. So after you've spent your Friday night in College Park reading the dictionary you don't think "hypocrite" applies.....how 'bout this: That's the pot calling the kettle black.
I don't live or work in College Park, but nice attempt at a slam again, failed though it was and, like I said, I don't have to read a dictionary to understand and properly spell the 3- and 4- letter vocabulary words I use, although it seems readily apparent you could use one. I'd give you some advice on how to pick one up but NWA management already sent out that memo...
Take a good look at the narrow-body NWA rates pre- and post- concessions for not just NWA and DAL but include USAirways, CAL, and United and compare them to what SWA and airTran have had for the last 6 years or so. The pre-concession rates are within a few dollars an hour of being identical past year 5, especially on the CA side. YOUR post-concession rates are WAY below the LCC's. So WHO was bringing down the bar? Go ahead, open an AIR, Inc career salary survey from around 2001 and see for yourself.
It's obvious that your limited experience prevents you from looking beyond or before the current snapshot of the industry. The history of this industry puts YOU on VERY shakey ground when you act like you know where every company will be in 5,10,15,20 years.
Hmmm... let's see here, I've done every single type of flying there is to do outside of military or crop dusting and I have "limited experience"? OK, whatever makes you feel better, sport.
And, barring some type of 9/11 incident to rock the fundamentals of this industry again, I feel pretty comfortable making the intuitive leaps about the state of some airlines over the next decade, the ones I have spent time reading about and researching, which includes yours and mine and a handful of others. After that, I can only speculate.
Gee Lear, I didn't plan on worrying about it dude. But how "talking out of your sphincter" of you to assume that NWA will always be a mediocre place to be as a pilot. It's been the opposite of that for a lot longer than it's been the current situation(hint: ask the Captains you jerk gear for....some of them are among the many who talked to me about it).
Jerk gear for? You forget, I know you're doing the same from a post you wrote a couple months back.
What you are ignoring is that ALL the legacies have become like that and I don't think THEY WILL EVER CHANGE BACK INTO WHAT THEY WERE. The airlines that I grew up in are a thing of the past and I believe MOST airlines will always be, for at least your and my career, a mediocre place to be. Adjusted income and days off for what pilots were making in the 80's would put a narrow-body CA somewhere in the $250k a year range - doubt we'll ever see it.
NWA could end up the next EAL while airtran spans the globe......OR airtran could end up the next peoples express while every current/furloughed NWA pilot ends up left seat on a 747-400, A330, or 787 (launch US customer...) for industry leading rates. Lets be honest.....neither YOU nor I have ANY way of knowing which way it will turn out. That's why I don't make close-minded, ignorant, arrogant, presumptuous comments like your's.
Wow... there's another one of those "hypocritical" statements you were talking about. Me closed-minded, ignorant, arrogant, and presumptuous? Better look in the mirror, buddy.
No, I don't "know" how it will all work out, but I've bet my entire career and future on a "best guess" and, so far, I've been pretty spot-on which has turned out VERY lucky for me and my family.
Are you a surfer or just 16 and up too late?
I'm sorry, but delusions of granduer based on flight info.com postings and basing your self-worth on same is a CLEAR sign of some SIGNIFICANT issues you are carrying around inside.
Hmm... delusions? Basing my self-worth? on Flightinfo? Are you mentally-challenged? I never said anything of the kind, I simply said there's very few people who agree with you on the drivel you post and quite a few people who agree with me.
That was meant to be incentive for you to take a closer look at your opinions. Obviously you missed it.
Lear70......the Clif Claven of airtran airways. Cliffy, its your mom....she says time to quit drinking and get off the computer.
Hmmm... what was that about juvenile retorts and resorting to lower insults when you can't debate fact?
Try to stay on topic, it's tough when MOST of your statements aren't about content, but about slinging mud, just like YOUR VERY FIRST POST IN THIS THREAD.
Come on, you can do it... just concentrate.
