NWA now or SWA later

[jke406]

I am in a unique position. I have an opportunity to start at NWA relatively soon--or SWA, in the next several classes. SWA is clearly the king of the hill...for now. NWA is not. However, SWA employment is in the nebulous future; the contract negotiations have already started and could be less than friendly.

NWA is a bottom feeder, with scumbag leadership and a tenuous future at best. But flying a 737 for the next 30 years....ouch. I'd love the MSP domicile. And it's a job now. Please provide some opinions. Thank you.

 

[Old School 737]

Go to NWA and then when SWA calls you will have more info to decide from. If you like it at NWA at that time then say thanks but no-thanks to SWA. If NWA is not your thing then when SWA calls you can get up in the middle of class and say thanks but no-thanks to NWA. But I think SWA is better place to be if you ask me!

 

[Tanker Clown]

I am in a unique position. I have an opportunity to start at NWA relatively soon--or SWA, in the next several classes. SWA is clearly the king of the hill...for now. NWA is not. However, SWA employment is in the nebulous future; the contract negotiations have already started and could be less than friendly.

NWA is a bottom feeder, with scumbag leadership and a tenuous future at best. But flying a 737 for the next 30 years....ouch. I'd love the MSP domicile. And it's a job now. Please provide some opinions. Thank you.

Either company you pick will be less well off with you as an employee. I hope you go with NWA so I can take your spot at SWA.

Why don't you go to Delta? They seem to love below average aviators with bad attitudes such as yourself.

 

[jke406]

Thanks, Old School.

Although I should have known I couldn't solicit opinions on this forum without Tanker Clown crapping all over it.

 

[Mach92]

NWA faster upgrade and like you said no 737 for 30 years EEEKKK

 

[PCL_128]

SWA might not be calling to fill classes for quite some time now that hiring forecasts are changing with the age-65 rule, so I'd take the NWA slot and see what happens. I can't imagine passing up a class date just to hold out for something that might take a very long time to come.

 

[GenericPilot]

which airline

Rule of thumb....Potential new hires should not bash their future employers, especially in public. If it's a scumbag airline, why are you considering it?

A smart guy would go to NWA and see if it is a decent opportunity. If not, go to SWA when called.
Actually the smart guys aren't going to the airlines, but that's a whole other story.

If you are a reservist, go NWA, then mil leave after training, and then SWA if you wish.
best of luck

 

[jke406]

Rule of thumb....Potential new hires should not bash their future employers, especially in public. If it's a scumbag airline, why are you considering it?

A smart guy would go to NWA and see if it is a decent opportunity. If not, go to SWA when called.
Actually the smart guys aren't going to the airlines, but that's a whole other story.

If you are a reservist, go NWA, then mil leave after training, and then SWA if you wish.
best of luck

True, I should not bash the airline with perhaps the worst employee/managment relationship in the industry.

I am considering it because, just like I am a number to them, they are a number to me...an income, a job, a way to put food on the table. Nothing more, nothing less. I wish it was not so, but this is what the industry has evolved into.

If you work in this industry and feel any kind of loyalty, I would venture that it's extremely one-sided.

 

[UALjan15]

Speaking from personal experience, saying no to SWA would be a big mistake. That said, I would go to NWA until SWA calls. The traditional arguments against SWA (737 for life, etc) I used to justify my choice didn't make a lot of sense when I was sent to the street. I think your concerns for NWA are well founded.

Good luck

 

[JAM-BRO]

Either company you pick will be less well off with you as an employee. I hope you go with NWA so I can take your spot at SWA.

Why don't you go to Delta? They seem to love below average aviators with bad attitudes such as yourself.

I agree. Check Delta, they are hiring.......

 

[volav8r1]

I agree. Check Delta, they are hiring.......

What he said!!!!

 

[Superpilot92]

True, I should not bash the airline with perhaps the worst employee/managment relationship in the industry.

I am considering it because, just like I am a number to them, they are a number to me...an income, a job, a way to put food on the table. Nothing more, nothing less. I wish it was not so, but this is what the industry has evolved into.

If you work in this industry and feel any kind of loyalty, I would venture that it's extremely one-sided.

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[NuGuy]

True, I should not bash the airline with perhaps the worst employee/managment relationship in the industry.

I am considering it because, just like I am a number to them, they are a number to me...an income, a job, a way to put food on the table. Nothing more, nothing less. I wish it was not so, but this is what the industry has evolved into.

If you work in this industry and feel any kind of loyalty, I would venture that it's extremely one-sided.

Heyas JKE,

Movement at NWA has come to a halt thanks to the age 65 thing.

If you have nothing else going on, I'd come to NWA, then bail with SWA calls.

There are no training contracts or anything like that, so you'd have nothing holding you back.

Nu

 

[instructordude]

Either company you pick will be less well off with you as an employee. I hope you go with NWA so I can take your spot at SWA.

Why don't you go to Delta? They seem to love below average aviators with bad attitudes such as yourself.

What ever fat dude.

JK go with Delta over all the above.

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

True, I should not bash the airline with perhaps the worst employee/managment relationship in the industry.

I am considering it because, just like I am a number to them, they are a number to me...an income, a job, a way to put food on the table. Nothing more, nothing less. I wish it was not so, but this is what the industry has evolved into.

If you work in this industry and feel any kind of loyalty, I would venture that it's extremely one-sided.

If thats how you feel then whats wrong with flying a 737 for life?

 

[herewego again]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluto13
Last I checked this was the SWA "POOL" thread. Why are people who haven't even interviewed, and have nothing of value to add, posting their crap here. This forum used to post good information but now all we have are idiots trying to make themselves heard and belittling others. Everyone, please grow up and return FI into a place where professionals can discuss relevant issues with some intelligence.

look slappy, if you want a
legitimate thread, you're in the wrong place. this place has been overrun by General Lee/737_Pylt/Jmoney/etc. plus, tanker clown is an absolute a$$clown.

Furthermore, SWA pilots are about to get absolutely bent over with the new contract negotiations. Do their pilots really think they're going to continue on this payscale? with basically zero growth? That is why I'll probably end up an NWA. SWA pilots should prepare to get back where they were...the @ss end of the industry. finito, done, finished.. Via con Dios.
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Don't taze me, bro!
Last edited by jke406 : Yesterday at 22:23.

wow, and so this is what you think of SWA. Really showing your true colors there sport! How about take the NWA job and NEVER come to SWA, OK!!

 

[puddlejumper101]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluto13
Last I checked this was the SWA "POOL" thread. Why are people who haven't even interviewed, and have nothing of value to add, posting their crap here. This forum used to post good information but now all we have are idiots trying to make themselves heard and belittling others. Everyone, please grow up and return FI into a place where professionals can discuss relevant issues with some intelligence.

look slappy, if you want a
legitimate thread, you're in the wrong place. this place has been overrun by General Lee/737_Pylt/Jmoney/etc. plus, tanker clown is an absolute a$$clown.

Furthermore, SWA pilots are about to get absolutely bent over with the new contract negotiations. Do their pilots really think they're going to continue on this payscale? with basically zero growth? That is why I'll probably end up an NWA. SWA pilots should prepare to get back where they were...the @ss end of the industry. finito, done, finished.. Via con Dios.
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Don't taze me, bro!
Last edited by jke406 : Yesterday at 22:23.

wow, and so this is what you think of SWA. Really showing your true colors there sport! How about take the NWA job and NEVER come to SWA, OK!!

i wish there was a way to find out who this joker is so he would NEVER set foot at SWA. After the way he has bashed SWA he should stay away.

 

[328dude]

Well aware of him, thank you.

 

[Fly4hire]

NWA is a bottom feeder, with scumbag leadership and a tenuous future at best. But flying a 737 for the next 30 years....ouch. I'd love the MSP domicile. And it's a job now. Please provide some opinions. Thank you.

NWA bashing is sport around here, especially among those who have no real knowledge of the Co. or it's strengths.

I'm sure where you are now has a better future or is a much better place of employment, or did you apply for NWA just so you'd have more to whine about here?


Do we have some hard ass management that are difficult to work with - absolutely. That said NWA is probably one of the best positioned carriers in the industry, and will likely have the least impact by age 65, despite what NuGuy has said about our last position award.

 

[pipe]

True, I should not bash the airline with perhaps the worst employee/managment relationship in the industry.

I am considering it because, just like I am a number to them, they are a number to me...an income, a job, a way to put food on the table. Nothing more, nothing less. I wish it was not so, but this is what the industry has evolved into.

If you work in this industry and feel any kind of loyalty, I would venture that it's extremely one-sided.

If more people "got it", like jke406 "gets it", we'd get a lot farther in contract negotiations. These are the facts.

Unfortunately, most guys don't understand the facts until they are mostly through their career. After their third or fourth S**T sandwich in the industry they finally go "huh, maybe Glenn, Doug, Gerard, Bill, Carl, Frank, Richard, Don, Herb, Stephen, Fred, Hulas, etc. doesn't care about me or the airline the way I care about my job."

PIPE

 

[colejer]

Someone please print up this guys posts and take them into SWA.