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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE April 14, 2008 NWA MEC Opposes Delta/Northwest Merger

Minneapolis, MN - Today the managements and Boards of Directors of Northwest and Delta Air Lines announced their intent to merge. In addition, a new Delta pilot contract was agreed upon by the Delta MEC and Delta management without the participation of the Northwest pilot group. The NWA MEC opposes the merger of Northwest with Delta Air Lines as it stands.

Dave Stevens, the NWA MEC Chairman, stated, "This agreement clearly disadvantages NWA pilots both with respect to economic issues and seniority list integration. A merger built on this unstable foundation is likely to put the combined airline in a position similar to that of USAirways. A USAirways-style labor relations scenario at the merged carrier, combined with the current and projected price of fuel and the looming economic downturn, is likely to place the Northwest pilots and all other Northwest employees at greater risk than as a stand-alone carrier."

This merger announcement comes after months of negotiations which had resolved all joint pilot contract issues, but which stalled due to differing views on the integration of pilot seniority. The NWA MEC, on numerous occasions, stated their willingness to resolve the seniority integration by expedited arbitration. The Delta MEC rejected arbitration as a means of resolving the seniority list issue at that time.

Monty Montgomery, NWA MEC Vice Chairman, stated, "Inexplicably, the Delta MEC has reversed its position and is now willing to arbitrate the seniority list issues under ALPA merger policy , but, at the same time, has abandoned the joint pilot contract approach and has, instead, agreed to a new Delta pilot contract amendment which will increase the pay and benefits for only
Delta pilots." Mark Young, NWA MEC Secretary/Treasurer, stated, "Any economic value or synergies that could have come from this merger may now be lost due to a one-sided agreement." Dave Stevens said, "The NWA MEC will use all resources available to aggressively oppose the merger. The risk to Northwest Airlines and to the Northwest pilot group from letting this merger proceed, as it is now structured, is simply too great."

Founded in 1931, ALPA represents 61,000 pilots at 43 airlines in the U.S.
and Canada of which over 5,100 are active NWA pilots. Visit the ALPA website

at http://www.alpa.org and the NWA ALPA website at http://www.nwaalpa.org. #

# # Contact: Greg Rizzuto, 267-697-2174

Matt Coons, 317-379-2543 Doreen Clark, 952-567-0507
 
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This is going to get nasty. DALALPA is trying to throw us under the bus, So much for unity. I understand most dont have any say in this on the DAL side but your MEC should not have gone to mgmt on their own to undercut NWA pilots. They should have pressed on with NWA ALPA working on a joint contact, SLI, etc.

I sincerely hope this gets resolved because i would hate to see bitterness between the groups for years.
 
This is going to get nasty. DALALPA is trying to throw us under the bus, So much for unity. I understand most dont have any say in this on the DAL side but your MEC should not have gone to mgmt on their own to undercut NWA pilots. They should have pressed on with NWA ALPA working on a joint contact, SLI, etc.

I sincerely hope this gets resolved because i would hate to see bitterness between the groups for years.

...your just now figuring that out....Time for all you Rodney King (why can't we all just get along) types to figure out that ALPA has FUBARd this.....

Everybody likes the idea of each MEC doing what it wants until it affects them negatively....then all of a sudden they don't like it anymore.....
 
Ok. Sure. I am sure that all the angles were looked at prior to this.
It is quite simple really. Lets sit down and get this SLI done. When that happens we are one happy family.
I mean that. I do not like this anymore that the NWA guys do. But the cat is out of the bag.
 
I look forward to working with my co-workers from NWA.

Superpilot, reconsider the facts. Delta's MEC could not negotiate for the NWA pilots. This was not "one sided" but rather a simple statement of fact that the DAL MEC does not represent you at this time. Further, why would the NWA MEC achieve any gains when they have done everything possible to slow and hinder progress? Their agenda has never been about securing gains and now they whine that they did not get anything.

They will achieve gains, but they have to get their heads right and get in the game.

No one has been left out of a joint contract. To achieve a "joint contract" we have to do it together.

Thus far the Delta pilots have been forced to go to an arbitration they did not want. If they have to go into a disupte they are still going to go to win.

I hope your MEC takes a few days off and reconsiders. All the Delta MEC has done is set a floor. Everything we build on this foundation depends on our ability to build together.

(and the furlough protection is something 'eh?)
 
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Lets have Mesaba/Compass/Comair throw a PID in there to get things really heated up.
 
Maybe it's just me, but where, in that statement, did DALPA throw NWA pilots "under the bus"?

As far as I can tell, they decided it was in the best interest of the airline and DALPA to merge, cannot make an agreement on behalf of NWA pilots but got something for their own group, and are trying to again extend the olive branch to the NWA pilots saying, "Let's work this out".

Sounds like the NWA MEC is being a little petulant about not getting to steer the bus... It also sounds that IF this is going to go as sour as the USAirways deal, it will be the SOLE fault of the NWA MEC by being the first to try to sabotage the deal.

Here we go again...
 
Further, why would the NWA MEC achieve any gains when they have done everything possible to slow and hinder progress?

So, we should have taken your "last and final" offer? So much for DALPA negotiating in good faith. It was take it or leave it. How is that NWALPA slowing things down?
 
No, you should have taken the first offer since it was better than your counter offer, which your side withdrew.

Oh well, if it is arbitration you demand, then that is what they have to provide you. But you sure can't be mad when your side insists on a dispute and the Delta side prepares properly by using their leverage to undermine your position. What do you expect them to do, not even try at your game?
 
So we currently have the East vs. West feud. Looks like the North vs. South feud is kicken off. When will the unions actually represent those that pay for their paychecks in a positive way??? Not picking sides on either of these feuds - but c'mon - the lousy self-serving representation is getting old. Just my 02.

Fast
 
No mergers...

Let the strongest airlines survive.

Then the remaining airlines can pick the pieces they want from the remains.

As bad as it was, both groups had a chance to work together but again, it is impossible to get all the pilots to agree.
A real "Union" would not allow this to happen but in reality, we have a bunch of single unions under an umbrella called an Association.

Good luck to everyone... I'm (we're) about to have our own fight with our potential merger.

Always
Motch
 
No, you should have taken the first offer since it was better than your counter offer, which your side withdrew.

Oh well, if it is arbitration you demand, then that is what they have to provide you. But you sure can't be mad when your side insists on a dispute and the Delta side prepares properly by using their leverage to undermine your position. What do you expect them to do, not even try at your game?

I work for Delta you jackass. You don't think this is going to screw up everything when the in-fighting starts. As bad as it is, if both sides don't come to an accord we will play in the hands of our mgmt. Read the playbook from USAir...you don't think our "leaders" are expecting this letter from the NWA MEC? Come on, they are five steps ahead on this one.Remember...'this Sh!t is chess, not checkers.'
 
So we currently have the East vs. West feud. Looks like the North vs. South feud is kicken off. When will the unions actually represent those that pay for their paychecks in a positive way??? Not picking sides on either of these feuds - but c'mon - the lousy self-serving representation is getting old. Just my 02.

Fast

You are very wise and I agree with you 1000%
 
No, you should have taken the first offer since it was better than your counter offer, which your side withdrew.Oh well, if it is arbitration you demand, then that is what they have to provide you. But you sure can't be mad when your side insists on a dispute and the Delta side prepares properly by using their leverage to undermine your position. What do you expect them to do, not even try at your game?
I work for Delta you jackass.
ROTFLMAO! Classic!!:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
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. Delta's MEC could not negotiate for the NWA pilots.

I don't remember them asking for DALALPA to do so. Wow, is this a hint of the acrimony ahead?

I guess the NWA pilots will have to earn their double breasted jackets....
 
No mergers...

Let the strongest airlines survive.

Then the remaining airlines can pick the pieces they want from the remains.

As bad as it was, both groups had a chance to work together but again, it is impossible to get all the pilots to agree.
A real "Union" would not allow this to happen but in reality, we have a bunch of single unions under an umbrella called an Association.

Good luck to everyone... I'm (we're) about to have our own fight with our potential merger.

Always
Motch

There isn't a "real Union" involved here, only alpa.

Paging Capt. Prater, Leadership needed.....Oh, nevermind, I knew that was a joke when I said it.

For what its worth.

DA

P.S. just wait for the next feature "UAL/CAL"......forget debating about whether the carriers will survive; does anybody think alpa will survive any of this???? Any thoughts
 
NW ALPA Went Down To Georgia

This is going to get nasty. DALALPA is trying to throw us under the bus, So much for unity. I understand most dont have any say in this on the DAL side but your MEC should not have gone to mgmt on their own to undercut NWA pilots. They should have pressed on with NWA ALPA working on a joint contact, SLI, etc.

I sincerely hope this gets resolved because i would hate to see bitterness between the groups for years.

To be read while humming Charlie Daniels 'The Devil Went Down To Georgia':

NorthWest Went Down to Georgia
They were looking for seniority to steal
They were in a bind
'cause they were way behind..look'n for some kind of deal...
And then the young MEC started negotiating and making it hot...
So the devil bounced up on a hickory stump and said Delta let me tell ya' what!
You're a pretty good pilot group but the the old men their due...I'll bet some of bitterness and unreasonable requests against your pilots, cause we think we're better than you!
The younger men said my name's Delta and it might be a sin, but I'll take that bet you're gonna regret 'cause we're the best there's been.
Delta rosin up your bow and play your deal hard...
The old men are in the mix and they're overplaying their cards...
If you win you get this shiney career made of gold...and if you lose the devil zaps your career...
 
Ya'll had a chance, and rolled the dice. Now, within 2 years I bet (no furlough clause), the DC9s will go away, and hopefully you will sign on the dotted line for your fat raise. Then we'll get the next 20 777s that will head towards Asia, and you guys will join me for some BARBEQUE at a local NASCAR event. Hey, I'll buy the third round of pitchers! Jeff Gordon ROCKS!

Bye Bye--General Lee
 

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